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Why mana barrier?

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Awesome Carry

Senior Member

05-26-2010

I feel that Blitzcrank as a whole could use a lot of tweaking; mainly, his rocket grab needs to have reduced range but everything else needs to be buffed. It's so frustrating playing a champion that is balanced around a single skill-shot spell, the rest of his skills just kinda add to the skill shot. Overdrive? Makes it easier to hit the grab. Power Fist? Knockup after the grab. Ultimate? Nuke after the grab. It's kinda pathetic. He could use an overhaul.

To stick to the topic, though, I never got why Mana Barrier actually drained mana; it isn't even a whole lot of damage absorbtion. I'd rather they just make it 30% of his mana and have it not drain any mana.


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Krimson

Recruiter

05-26-2010

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Awesome Carry:
I feel that Blitzcrank as a whole could use a lot of tweaking; mainly, his rocket grab needs to have reduced range but everything else needs to be buffed. It's so frustrating playing a champion that is balanced around a single skill-shot spell, the rest of his skills just kinda add to the skill shot. Overdrive? Makes it easier to hit the grab. Power Fist? Knockup after the grab. Ultimate? Nuke after the grab. It's kinda pathetic. He could use an overhaul.

To stick to the topic, though, I never got why Mana Barrier actually drained mana; it isn't even a whole lot of damage absorbtion. I'd rather they just make it 30% of his mana and have it not drain any mana.


Good point.
He and Kayle should have a wedding. They can Q and R all they want happily ever after. Not. At the rate he grabs, she'd get bored.

All his abilities are lackluster, yet people say he is balanced. Reason? "He. Can. Grab". thats it. So Kayles balanced too. "She. Can. Shield. AND. Heal."


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Queue Dodge Hero

Member

05-26-2010

Why do you hate Blitz so much?

He fills a role no other champion does with grab.


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Diggityvince

Member

05-26-2010

No one ever told you that the passive had to be focused on. Ignoring it would completely fine. I mean, by the time you have 20% HP or even less, aren't you backing already? That shield just saved your life if you somehow didn't waste your mana at all. Your main objective is to either a) stay close to your buds and grab a hero to feed your allies or b) kill them with one massive combo.

Long story short, stay with team, rocket grab, gank that ******-bag.

Oh btw, try stacking capes. It's actually fun!


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Krimson

Recruiter

05-26-2010

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Diggityvince:
No one ever told you that the passive had to be focused on. Ignoring it would completely fine. I mean, by the time you have 20% HP or even less, aren't you backing already? That shield just saved your life if you somehow didn't waste your mana at all. Your main objective is to either a) stay close to your buds and grab a hero to feed your allies or b) kill them with one massive combo.


Im writing this exactly because of that, the mana barrier HAS to be ignored to fill in his other deficiencies. As stated earlier, a full rotation is 400+. Ignoring it would mean you got 250 life, without the armor. Arguably buying a single Ruby Crystal would add more life than mana barrier could, since that 180 health gained benefits from armor.

Blitz can be 3 things, a tank, melee DPS, or AP.

Going DPS or AP leaves him more vulnerable in defense, and even going full damage, he is lackluster. 2 AP spells on terrible cooldowns, and a 0.8 ratio on grab. For DPS, his terrible attack speed is one of the worst in the game, and that severely impacts the DPS he can dish out. His overdrive and power fist merely steroid him up to a level that other people have as their basic stats and take for granted. Its like "Weakling man! With the power to momentarily become normal!! Endorsed by Mundo Inc."

So that leaves tank as his safest bet, and most reliable one. But honestly, what part of Blitzcrank would you call "tank" ? The 200 health above average champions at lvl 18? No? Must be mana barrier then, which brings us back to the topic. Most of his actual tankiness comes from items then, but any champion can do that then. Hes like tanker Morgana for one, she has no tanking abilities, but with enough tank items shes tank.

Its a dilemma, ignoring mana barrier is bad, but focusing on it is bad too.


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macsauce

Senior Member

05-26-2010

Warmongs on Blitz, lol.

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Talamare

Senior Member

05-26-2010

Most tanks have pathetic base stats, and probably nothing special on defensive skills

Blitz isnt a get focused fire tank, hes more of a burst initiator


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Techno Stud

Senior Member

05-26-2010

*facepalm


There is a mastery called Strength of Spirit. You should probably look into it.

Strength of Spirit + Blitzcrank = PROFIT


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Achenpach

Senior Member

05-26-2010

Because blitz crank was intended as a tank whom you would get more mana/ap items on, if your getting warmogs on your blitz then your blitz is sucking.

The mana shield is powerful as u can create very deceptive situations where the enemy cannot properly predict the amount of hp you have.

Frozen heart is a very powerful item for him as with CDR/18 runes and masteries u can reach 40% when combined with it.

Its just a different style of tanking and different way of playing compared to your normal Hp/Armor tanks.

And mana shields are proper on a robot, it makes perfect sense.

People who complain about it are often just not used to it.

tl;dr Mana shield is good, get mana/ap items for blitz rather then pure hp item. Blitz can tank with AP/Mana items because he has the shield, he does'nt tank with warmogs


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Crimson Rose

Senior Member

05-26-2010

what about this CDR build on blitz? tried on practice when he was available

(not in any order)
mercury threads
soul shroud
frozen shroud (later on frozen heart if theres extra gold)
archangel staff

is it any good? almost spammable powerfist