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Countering a turtling Heimer?

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Xienwolf

Senior Member

05-20-2010

Most champions have at least 1 ability that can outrange the turrets. So harass heimer a bit, then charge through the turrets and kill him. If he is too smart to allow you to kill him, then just harass the turrets and enjoy some extra gold.

If you are out of the laning phase: Just don't push the lane Heimer has turrets set up in. And if he is watching where you push and setting up well ahead of your arrival, push 2 lanes at once (split team, but be cautious of ganks, or just push one or 2 waves in one lane, then move to the next and push it a bit, then the next, then back, until you find yourself at an unguarded tower. Frequently the enemy gets upset and tries to intercept you in the jungle before that happens, so you ace them and proceed to super-crush their base)


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Seiuchi

Senior Member

05-20-2010

Push another lane. Once he has to divide his attention, he's not anywhere near as powerful.


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shushman

Senior Member

05-20-2010

hes pretty bad late game so if you can last that long then you got a good chance


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Landa

Senior Member

05-20-2010

Tristana, Sivir, Ezreal , kennen , anivia, morgana, karthus.

All of the above can kill them from a safe distance.


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Andromansis

Recruiter

05-20-2010

Feint another lane, then go to the third, then back to the first, then to the third again, then to the first, then to the second, then to the third, and then the first, and then the third.

If you haven't made progress that way yet, then the Heimer will come out of his base and attempt to murder you. Then you just stun him, and take away his wrench, followed by all of his HP.


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Laue

Recruiter

05-20-2010

Anivia and Karthus will run out of mana after continued turret bashing. Heimer will outpush them anyway. Heck, he will outpush you if you are not Sivir, Morde or Cho.


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Pickles

Recruiter

05-20-2010

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shushman:
hes pretty bad late game so if you can last that long then you got a good chance


No, he's better late game. His turrets can deal over 150 aoe damage a pop and his grenades can destroy turrets in a few hits. You don't want the game to last that long against heim.

To counter heim, just kill him and don't feed him. Three level three turrets aren't always going to stop a solid push. Simply having some aoe will take out those turrets too. Heimer's primary weakness is nukers. Melee dps have a hard time against him. As much as people love Jax, he's not always the best choice against heimer. Anivia and Annie can bring the hurt though.


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Volpes

Senior Member

05-20-2010

Madred's affects turrets.* If you are a ranged champion, it can help burn down Heimer's turrets.

*I'm pretty sure of this. Never read it anywhere, but I have tried it several times and am pretty sure it works.


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Azing

Senior Member

05-20-2010

If heimer is turtling rather then pushing, he is doing it wrong. Really late game best bet is to run in and zerg turrets with creeps, they are fragile and the cd will force him to only plant one. About 2 heroes can take down his turrets with creeps without any problem, or switching attacking points works as well.


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Pickles

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05-20-2010

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Azing:
If heimer is turtling rather then pushing, he is doing it wrong. Really late game best bet is to run in and zerg turrets with creeps, they are fragile and the cd will force him to only plant one. About 2 heroes can take down his turrets with creeps without any problem, or switching attacking points works as well.


Agreed. Turtling heimers give heimerdinger a bad name. You can't win games often by turtling. It just makes the game 4vs5. Heimerdinger needs to PUSH. His level 3 turrets and grenades are so good at pushing. Turrets deal immense damage against towers and grenades are good at chipping away the tower's hp. Why would a heimer player not push?