Elementz 5v5 Tier List (Draft Mode)

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Oey

Senior Member

11-09-2010

Sona's finally made it to top tier 1?? took a while lol... she has incredible sustained DPS, Support, and a stupidtly awesome Ult...

Now for LeBlanc... what the nerf??? :/ tier 4 still too low imo, Q-R-Q isn't the best combo anyways, Q-W-R is alot better imo for early game and for assassination especially against popular "flashers" carry like Trist, Corki, Try, Kass, etc.

LeBlanc's nerf was needed, but it was way too much of a nerf. Seem like Riot doesn't know when to stop :/


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Theorycrafter

Senior Member

11-09-2010

How high is the waiting time to get another comment in? 1 per hour?


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Hannor

Senior Member

11-09-2010

I just wanted to add/ask. As jungle rammus I have been against a few ww. I never see them until after i gank, if at all, and i always have a ward at dragon well in time to catch them for a kill/steal attempt. Is it possible that jungle rammus can best jungle ww, or am i just up against crappy ww's.

Edit: forgot to add, whenever i do meet a ww in the jungle, I typically have owned him. either killing him outright or sending him b long enough to take some of his jungle creeps out, as well.


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Big Rubber

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Senior Member

11-09-2010

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Potato

Master Recruiter

11-09-2010

Corki's now the second best champion in the game according to Elementz.

What changes brought him from Tier 3 to the top of Tier 1? What changes brought him from being the least played champion in the game to the FotM?

An (extremely) insignificant Valkyrie change and a small missile buff. If you're unaware, it now scales 20% from AD. In an average game, end-game, a correctly built Corki will have ~300 AD, translating into 60 bonus damage (120 for "Big One"). After application of magic resist (Corki will likely have nothing beyond the 15%(?) penetration provided from the mastery), it comes out to be a lot less; definitely not even nearly game-changing. People saw that Corki received buffs; they bought him, they learned him, and they're good with him.

I'm not saying Corki doesn't deserve a Tier 1 spot. He's a ****ing great champion, even before his earlier buffs in the Miss Fortune patch. I've put hundreds of games into him and with the proper playstyle, and he's probably better than most, if not all, damage carries. What's ridiculous is that these small buffs are likely going to result in nerfs that outweigh the small buffs, or maybe even Ezrealization.

"700 damage Big One Rocket of zomg I can’t believe Corki’s R is so **** good now. Riot could of probably left the Corki buffs to just fixing Valk but oh noooo! They were like let’s give him more dps! BUFF HIS ROCKETS1!! So now Corki is hands down the best carry in the game currently. His early game isn’t whats OP about him. Its after you get 1-2 items that you realize the scaling on him is so incredibly strong that his mid and late game is just unrivaled in terms of ability to carry a team."

This quote has made me lose all of my remaining faith in Elementz. It really confirms that he has no idea what he's talking about, and rather than actually putting facts into something to support it, he spouts simple opinions or how his last game played out.


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SavageMinnow

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11-09-2010

Quote:
Originally Posted by Thethiala View Post
Visual version of Elementz' Tier List updated.

The image is too long to attach to my post (450x3200), so you've got to check it out at my Photobucket.
Requesting this link be added to Elementz OP.


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Swadow

Senior Member

11-09-2010

Mord raised in viability and Cho'gath isnt higher than him? Cho is much more viable than Mord currently because his ulti is a real nuke whereas Mord ulti is currently a finisher(Which means it wont be able to do half of it's damage) to get a nerfed ghost. Cho has hard and soft CC(Knockup, slow, silence) and a true damage nuke with 0,5 AP ratio, overall better AP ratios and can actually be helpful to team. The change didnt help Mord, it lowered his viability to nonexistant.


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skittlebit

Senior Member

11-09-2010

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Originally Posted by Potato View Post
Corki's now the second best champion in the game according to Elementz.

What changes brought him from Tier 3 to the top of Tier 1? What changes brought him from being the least played champion in the game to the FotM?

An (extremely) insignificant Valkyrie change and a small missile buff. If you're unaware, it now scales 20% from AD. In an average game, end-game, a correctly built Corki will have ~300 AD, translating into 60 bonus damage (120 for "Big One"). After application of magic resist (Corki will likely have nothing beyond the 15%(?) penetration provided from the mastery), it comes out to be a lot less; definitely not even nearly game-changing. People saw that Corki received buffs; they bought him, they learned him, and they're good with him.

I'm not saying Corki doesn't deserve a Tier 1 spot. He's a ****ing great champion, even before his earlier buffs in the Miss Fortune patch. I've put hundreds of games into him and with the proper playstyle, and he's probably better than most, if not all, damage carries. What's ridiculous is that these small buffs are likely going to result in nerfs that outweigh the small buffs, or maybe even Ezrealization.

"700 damage Big One Rocket of zomg I canít believe Corkiís R is so **** good now. Riot could of probably left the Corki buffs to just fixing Valk but oh noooo! They were like letís give him more dps! BUFF HIS ROCKETS1!! So now Corki is hands down the best carry in the game currently. His early game isnít whats OP about him. Its after you get 1-2 items that you realize the scaling on him is so incredibly strong that his mid and late game is just unrivaled in terms of ability to carry a team."

This quote has made me lose all of my remaining faith in Elementz. It really confirms that he has no idea what he's talking about, and rather than actually putting facts into something to support it, he spouts simple opinions or how his last game played out.
qft. I was going to make the exact same post, even using 300 ad as the measurement for his missiles. +1


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TheMeanderer

Senior Member

11-09-2010

Gonna try me ol' matey Corki 'gain then!

I really think Malphite is to low.
If you draft him against carries or mages and start mid against one, you become fed and the mage or carry is disabled the whole match.


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BlueFire

Player Support Specialist

11-09-2010
50 of 50 Riot Posts

Just commenting on new layout. The light grey on dark grey isn't easy to read or very appealing imo. Take it as what you will.