Qustion for Garen

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Xeres Fhenn

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05-06-2010

My question today is for people using Garen. Generally I play him as DPS with maybe a warmogs(depends on how the game is going and who I'm laning with/against). What I want to know is that I enjoy getting black cleaver however, does the item's passive work with Judgement? I would prefer to have Bloodthirster rather then that if if doesn't. Thanks for replying and helping me out . I also ask this because by the time I get Black Cleaver I do a lot of damage to really notice lol


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Temlam

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05-06-2010

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Originally Posted by Xeres Fhenn View Post
My question today is for people using Garen. Generally I play him as DPS with maybe a warmogs(depends on how the game is going and who I'm laning with/against). What I want to know is that I enjoy getting black cleaver however, does the item's passive work with Judgement? I would prefer to have Bloodthirster rather then that if if doesn't. Thanks for replying and helping me out . I also ask this because by the time I get Black Cleaver I do a lot of damage to really notice lol
you would probably be best to know, just stop at vampiric sceptor for minion ups, judgement doesnt mix with lifesteal.


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Xeres Fhenn

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05-06-2010

ok, but getting the kills still count for the Bloodthirster and continue to stack the damage i need. In the long run it's better to have that than Black Cleaver. I need to know if Black Cleaver's passive mixes with Judgement.


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IndomitusRex

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05-06-2010

Well, there's any easy way to find out. Play a practice game, and see if the visual effect from the Black Cleaver shows up when you're using Judgement. Phage's graphic shows up with Judgement, so that should be a fair test. I would guess Black Cleaver would work with Judgement, based on how it interacts with Phage.


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Xeres Fhenn

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05-06-2010

Ok well I did what you suggested, and I would Q, see the graphic for Black Cleaver and then Judgement and would see nothing other than the sword so I'm assuming that it doesn't work...


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Incineration

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05-06-2010

If you want armor pen get Last Whisper. Infinity's Edge/Ghostblade/Bloodthirster are much better items than Black Cleaver for Garen.


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Temlam

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05-06-2010

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If you want armor pen get Last Whisper. Infinity's Edge/Ghostblade/Bloodthirster are much better items than Black Cleaver for Garen.
oh hell yes get an edge. building crit with only the edge's damage (maybe a brutalizer) rapes


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Carados

Senior Member

05-06-2010

Judgement doesn't apply on hit effects, like every other skill in the game that doesn't say "Applies on hit effects."


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PineapplePine

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05-06-2010

Just to confirm the guy above. Garen's Judgement doesn't apply ANY on hit effect. I know because I almost get Frozen Mallet every time I play Garen. And his judgement never works with the slow. So I have to use Q to run up, hit once, and E and spin and damage.


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Thirteenth Owl

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05-06-2010

Crit build for garen is up. Thats the the only reason people are saying he is up >.<