Philosopher's Stone, Tiamat.

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TiberiusAudley

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05-04-2010

Going to keep this short and simple:

Old Tiamat:
Pickaxe, Long Sword, Regrowth, Meki. Not sure what the price was.

Current Tiamat:
Pickaxe, Long Sword, Rejuv Bead, Faerie Charm, 250 recipe -- 2070g



Suggested Change:
Pickaxe (975), Philosopher's Stone (1115), 200g recipe-- (2285g).

Increase the splash radius by ~50 units (from current incarnation).
Reduce damage to 40 (meaning you get a bonus 15 damage for the 200g recipe)
Improve Health Regen to 25p5 (+2.5 over Philo)
Improve Mana Regen to 12p5 (+2 over Philo)


Expected result: Philosopher's Stone becomes a viable laning item (for some champs) again, as it ACTUALLY builds into something. Tiamat becomes purchased by those who typically start with Meki or Regrowth (for whatever reason, lol).




Alternate Suggestion:
Brutalizer (1337), Philosopher's Stone (1115), 198g Recipe (2650g).

Increase splash radius by ~50 units (from current incarnation).
Reduce damage to 40 (+15 damage for 198g recipe)
Adds 15 Armor Penetration.
Improve Health Regen to 25p5 (+2.5 over Philo)
Improve Mana Regen to 12p5 (+2 over Philo)
10% Cooldown Reduction.



Tiamat is largely considered useless except by fans of SlyGoat Shenanigans. Philosopher's Stone is only found in the lower end of the elo spectrum of games. Any form of improvement to either item would be a great help, but I think by adjusting the recipe of Tiamat to include Philosopher's Stone, the two items might find more reason to be built, especially if accompanied by a slight increase to the radius of Tiamat's splash.


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Yellow Jester

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05-04-2010

I find that Tiamat is a decent item, don't understand the hate for it. I would put it on Kayle, combos with her pew pew lazers.


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I8C SRS FACE

Senior Member

05-04-2010

You know what...
This actually makes a fair amount of sense.


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Admonished

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05-04-2010

Quote:
Originally Posted by Yellow Jester View Post
I find that Tiamat is a decent item, don't understand the hate for it. I would put it on Kayle, combos with her pew pew lazers.
You buy an item with splash damage for a char that already has splash damage?
Really Tiamat is a bad item, the splash radius is so small it can't even be properly utilized in farming(mebbe ranged minions?) much less team fights.


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RaginHomoSapien

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05-04-2010

Recipe : 400 gp
Tiamat +philosophers stone + pickaxe = [ti'amtum](+60 damage, 40 health regen, 15 mana regen)

[ti'amtum] working title for item, basically the older version of the name of the goddess, "tiamat's fury" or "tiamat's wrath" would also be very adequate!!!