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Champion Spotlight: Kayle, the Judicator

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Xocolatl

Recruiter

07-25-2011

New animation and model looks really nice.
Can we push Taric to the front of the queue?


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Calvar

Junior Member

07-25-2011

This is complete bs. It's stuff like this that make myslef and friends I know less inclined to play anymore. THey essentially make kayle completely useless. She already had issues before with strength compared to some champions, so you nerf her further. Awesome. I honestly think that riot is doing this to old champions because they want people to go and buy the new op champs. i already buy the champions so all nerfing kayle is doing is punishing me for it.


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mseb warden

Senior Member

07-26-2011

Kayle was suppose to get buffed somewhat not nerfed... her early game mana on spells was horrible , **** heals and horrible mana regain and cost of spells... what did you do? increase cds and make her more ****? when her late game was all she had to be even somewhat viable... Now she is going to have to farm her ass off all game like before and do worse late game, thanks riot!

+1 TO PHREAK HAVING LEVEL ADVANTAGE AND BEING FED BEFORE HE DOES GOOD ON HER (like all the champions in videos he does goodwith)

rofl.


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Arcane Azmadi

Senior Member

07-26-2011

I just read the actual details of this rema- sorry, this brutal, vicious and unwarranted ubernerf in the patch notes and... frankly, I'm speechless. While I disapproved of this rubbish, I was willing to at least give Riot a chance, to wait and see what the exact details were before I passed a final judgement. And having seen the details, my final judgement is that someone at Riot needs to be sacked immediately because this is the most RIDICULOUSLY lame and incompetent piece of s**t passing for a remake that I have EVER SEEN.

I seriously can't find enough words to express how disgusted I am with this. I am NOT going to even try Kayle out to see how she plays now- a person would have to be blind, deaf, clinically ret@rded and ideally only 3 months old to not be able to see how rubbish this is. But quickly, let's just go over it step by step:

BASICS:
Nerfing her AD and AS per level. Well done there, you attempt to make her an attack-focussed champion with an emphasis on attack speed, so you make sure she's worse at it than ever before. Oh, and despite professing to want to improve her weak early game, you've given her no buffs at all. Congratulations, you are stupid.

HOLY FERVOR
I never approved of replacing the old passive, which was the unique and defining feature that made Kayle such fun to play, but I held out hope that the new one would at least give Kayle a new strength to play off. All I can say is congratulations Kayle, you are now the proud holder of the title of "Wost And Most Useless Passive In The Entire Game". (Heimerdinger thanks you from the bottom of his heart.) I'm just... staggered that no-one on Riot's team realised how utterly worthless and absolutely rubbish this passive is- 2% per hit stacking up to a maximum of 10%. That is such absolute piss that I just can't possibly think of a way in which it could be worse. It is inconceivably bad. She might as well not have a passive at all.

RECKONING
This skill has been overall improved with one exception: it no longer amplifies damage on the target. Sorry, what's that you say? It still does? Well yeah, but only to less at all 5 ranks than it used to at rank ONE. The old Reckoning started at 8% amplification and scaled up to 16%, which wasn't devestating but was useful. Now it's 5% at all levels which is... meaningless. Oh, and what was the point of buffing the AP ratio when Kayle is now COMPLETELY non-viable as an AP character? Moving on to that...

RIGHTEOUS FURY
Now this is starting to get kind of silly. It's like Riot said "sorry we're completely ruining 3 out of this champion's 5 abilities, to make it up to you we'll overbuff one of the others to a ridiculous level". I have to say I love the new Righteous Fury- EVERY aspect of it has been buffed (except the AP ratio, but as I said it's now worthless to build AP on Kayle so that's not even an issue). The flat damage has been massively improved, the splash radius has been massively improved, the cooldown has been massively improved, the mana cost has been massively improved. It's such an awesome skill. They should really give it to a champion worth playing.

DIVINE BLESSING
Now this is the stupidest part of all. The old Divine Blessing was one of the worst heals in the game- its flat numbers were bad, its AP ratio was by FAR the lowest of any heal in the game (except Sona's, but like all of Sona's skills that is meant to be spammed which multiplies the effect) and its cooldown was fairly average. Its only real plus point was the speed boost which could be maintained permanently. But now, this skill has been destroyed. Ruined. It's utterly worthless for any purpose whatsoever. Its mediocre flat numbers have been nerfed to make them outright rubbish, its AP ratio has been slashed by almost a THIRD, changing it from bad to a farcical joke, its cooldown has been increased by 50% (10 sec to 15 sec) meaning that Kayle is now about as effective a healer as Leblanc is an effective tank and the compensation for this? The "clutch save speed boost" which was supposed to replace the permanent small boost? A pathetically, practically insultingly low 15-23% with the duration reduced to TWENTY-FIVE-F***ING-PERCENT of what it once was. I consider it no exaggeration to say that this skill is now USELESS. Destroyed. Nerfed into the f***ing GROUND. Somebody needs to be congratulated for achieving the previously-thought impossible feat of lowering my opinion of Riot's balancing ability to even lower than it already was.

Regards building Kayle now, well... I got nothing. Contrary to what Phreak suggested here I can't see ANY value to stacking AS on her- woo, the enemy is going to be quaking in their boots in fear of your terrifying 10% AR/MR debuff! AP is equally worthless- while Reckoning is now a powerful nuke the ratios on her other abilities are so useless and rubbish that you might as well build AP Sivir and without Holy Fervor (the REAL Holy Fervor, not this laughable sham which has stolen its name) it doesn't give her any other benefits either. Flat AD? Again, no natural scaling on her at all. Tank? There's nothing tanky about her at all. Support? She has no support abilities so why would you build her as a support? ("Hey what about Divine Ble-" NO SUPPORT ABILITIES!) So that leaves... not playing her at all. Brilliant Riot. Next I guess you'll move on to remaking Ashe, fixing the problems of her unreasonably high DPS and unfair capability at kiting and buffing her abilities as an AP burst assassin and offtank.

Overall, you don't need to be a genius to work out what I think of this so-called "remake": it blows immeasurable amounts of elephant piss. This is just INCONCEIVABLY lame and worthless on almost EVERY possible level. I didn't have the highest of hopes for this remake in the first place, but I didn't even in my worst nightmare even imagine that ANYONE could blunder this badly. Seriously Riot, well done. To screw up this incredibly badly, to display this level of utterly ret@rded incompetence, has to deserve some kind of medal. GG Riot. Thanks for ruining one of my favourite champions, the first one I ever played. By the way, I hate you.


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Mogey Bear

Recruiter

07-26-2011

My feelings, while not completely, are similar to Arcane Azmadi's, so thanks for that. While slightly harsh it was well said. I am a Kayle only player, leveled to 30 with her, and if this remake causes me to lose the enjoyment I have by using her, then I guess I'll have to put LoL to rest. Not a threat, just a cause and effect.


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Royonoc

Recruiter

07-26-2011

I do not think I will be playing her anymore.. **** she was one of my favs


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Bruther

Junior Member

07-26-2011

She is going to get nef agin or she should she is now to op. :O


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Meshg

Member

07-26-2011

Don't know why doing this, Kayle has a good mid game if she gets some mana regen. I agree with the late game nerf since she is litterally a huge beast.


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konstanz

Junior Member

07-26-2011

idk how much she needed an armor and mr shred but i like the reworks overall gonna need to test her out


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The Pumas

Senior Member

07-26-2011

I love all that MR/AR you are....NOT shredding.