Riot said a time ago that Irelia's kit was too strong

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Dragon Aurum

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08-05-2013

It's hard to balance her because her kit have a bit of everything they said.
Vayne's kit have even more things, and her last nerf actually didn't change anything. Her ultimate isn't her problem.

Her W is the problem. Health counter true damage, but vayne is a ranged hyper carry with % health true damage. You can't even say this without laughing.

Edit 1 : To people who is down voting : i'm not saying vayne is OP, just saying that is stupid a late game adc win a lane against many many bruisers top

Edit 2 : Why i'm comparing two different champions? Because Vayne do everything Irelia do better, being ranged.


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Janna F Kennedy

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08-05-2013

Yeah many... many... many... months ago she still had % health true damage. But you didn't say she was OP then.


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Galactic Teemo

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08-05-2013

Vayne's stun is less reliable, she lacks innate sustain, and she lacks CC reduction.


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orghak 3

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08-05-2013

Comparing a bruiser to a carry is a dangerous thing.


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Amanie

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08-05-2013

buff irelia


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Zahaele

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08-05-2013

Because Vayne has built-in sustain and waveclear on top of everything else, right?

There was a point in time at which Vayne was a well-balanced pick who nobody had problems with. Therefore, how is a rework justifiable?


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Dragon Aurum

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08-05-2013

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Originally Posted by Janna F Kennedy View Post
Yeah many... many... many... months ago she still had % health true damage. But you didn't say she was OP then.
Many, many, MANY months ago BOTRK and Barrier didn't exist


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Anthropics

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08-05-2013

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Because Vayne has built-in sustain too, right?

There was a point in time at which Vayne was a well-balanced pick who nobody had problems with. Therefore, how is a rework justifiable?
She was balanced because she didn't have an item with godly synergy in BoRK and after Bork came out there were ADC far more OP than her. Then Riot buffed condemn range because...reasons.


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Acid Reigns

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08-05-2013

Her true damage isn't really a big deal. >.>

if she's hitting you for 60% of your health in the first two hits, and then 40% with the third hit, then what's the problem?

That she's hitting you for 30% of your health every attack?
Or that every third attack she's hitting you for a bonus 10% or your health? -.-

Her self peel, and repositioning, as well as her HUGE damage from her ult and Q are the problem. x_x


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Mairead Watkins

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08-05-2013

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Yeah many... many... many... months ago she still had % health true damage. But you didn't say she was OP then.
Thats because, many months ago, you could take up ezreal and **** on her in lane. Nerfs dont just affect one champ; graves has been nerfed so bad that vayne can beat him in lane. Corki can't annihilate her anymore either. Cait is reliable until you get ganked even once (even if you don't die, but go b) She can still all in and kill you at 6.

The worst part? If she gets past this laning, shes stronger than any of the aforementioned champs, and there is nothing you can build to stop her. No, randuins and FH won't stop her. Don't even try.


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