So, about that Karma leak...

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CombatCube

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03-15-2013

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As a veteran Karma player (see Dominion champion statistics), I approve of this kit. While I'm going to miss her passive and % AoE heals, the addition of hard CC and a reliable three-spell combo makes Karma a support/AP mid to be reckoned with.

However, going back to the passive, I really liked how she had the AP equivalent of a Maw of Malmortius. Perhaps that can be retained with a similar item?


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Typhron

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03-15-2013

This just isn't Karma. Not at all.

Perfectly fine with her filling more roles, and the passive is a nice idea. But there's nothing Karma-like about her anymore with no skillfully used/needed AoE healing. Instead she's far more single target oriented and using abilities/a kit not unlike Leblanc's due to some mechanic changes.

So she'll join the ranks of AP mids and some niche tops and lose a lot of her flavor and what made her her in the process. To that end this isn't Karma, but another champion entirely.


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Qeeick

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03-15-2013

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Whooooops. Edited now XD Yeah - Karma's not gonna be granting movement speed to towers anytime soon. I'm bad at life.
Will she still have the highest scaling shield in the game? Or was that one of things nerfed to compensate for the other buffs?


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Timeless Yyr

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03-15-2013

I have a question that i would like to ask you Scarizard.

You said the new karma can be played as a supportish AP (like lux or morgana), but I'm very curious about the second part of her passive mentioning autoattacks.

Do you think Karma 2.0 could be played as a mix of attack speed and ap (think about Orianna: of course it wouldn't be the OPTIMAL choice, nor is for Orianna, but sure it's fun!)? I'm thinking something like Nashor, Abyssal, a mix between Rumble and Kayle

EDIT: maybe a Liandry too which might work very well with her dot giving more tankyness.


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Zeno Clash

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03-15-2013

they gave her a worst version of ryze's passive and ryze has build in cool down reduction wtf. that thing better be on a 5 sec cool down or idk what riot is thinking


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CombatCube

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03-15-2013

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Will she still have the highest scaling shield in the game? Or was that one of things nerfed to compensate for the other buffs?
Janna's shield is actually equal to Karma's base values but has a 0.9 ratio while Karma's is 0.8. However, Karma's shield does go to Level 6, so then it outperforms Janna's until 400 AP.


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TheEnygma

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03-15-2013

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Whooooops. Edited now XD Yeah - Karma's not gonna be granting movement speed to towers anytime soon. I'm bad at life.
so we can't have a mobile shielded turret?

what do they pay you for?


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Balloonshopper

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03-15-2013

This may have been asked already, but will the bonus skin be given so long as Karma is bought the minute before the rework is released or did she have to be owned prior at an early enough point in time?


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Qeeick

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Janna's shield is actually equal to Karma's base values but has a 0.9 ratio while Karma's is 0.8. However, Karma's shield does go to Level 6, so then it outperforms Janna's until 400 AP.
Oh, you rarely see ap janna played so I never realized she had that kind of scaling on her shield lol.

But the cap is going to be higher than 400 ap in most cases because of karma's current passive, and janna wont have that kind of ap until 30-40 minutes anyways


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FrozenMistninja

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03-15-2013

This is gonna hurt
I Hope you brought some medication
I'm seething with calmness
How dare you interrupt my meditation
Im Self Sustaining my inner flame burns bright
They call me Karma because I control your quality of life
Think no one plays me?
My popularity has no equal
I got the most fans in the whole league and they're all lethal
So bring your whole clan and your family and we'll brawl people
I kill Noxians from a sound sleep cause' they're all feeble
It may be harsh, but we're past negotiation
I was prepared to tolerate everything short of a full invasion
Killed most of my village and I'm here to balance the equation
Not a Natural warrior but you forced me to defend my nation
And on occasion I might even enjoy it a bit
cause no matter what you do we'll always have our spirit
My strength lies in my brethren and I'm happy to lead'em
Cause you can take our lives, but you can never take our freedom
Not here to weather the storms I'm here to calm them
And if your team's around you should alarm them
Our victory is assured I got a plan
I'm farmed up and it's about to hit the fan
My power's a secret, quiet agent of aggression
You can call me Bond, Spirit Bond 007
I can play multiple lanes so I use my discretion
but no matter where I end up you end up in depression
cause you can try to kill me, but failure is assured
the more health I lose, the more my shield endures
and if you try to dive me, well I'll just wave politely
Use a mantra charge, and live everytime while your death is likely
That was embarassing, I bet your team reports you
It looked pretty intentional, it was so easy to thwart you
I know you rarely see me but you could look me up
You play like you've got the brain capacity of a dixie cup
I'm so enlightened I'm pretty sure I flouresce
You need to borrow some gold? Seems I have an excess
Now that I'm fed there's absolutely no stress
I can't believe how easy it was to destroy you in this ridiculous dress
Not here to weather the storms I'm here to calm them
And if your team's around you should alarm them
Our victory is assured I got a plan
I'm farmed up and it's about to hit the fan

If you want riot To Keep the FANS! In some form or another, taunt, joke, recall, dance, revival then please keep posting. Riot doesnt understand that the FANS she holds are a symbol of all of the old Karma Players! Because we are The FANS. If you know the song lyrics by badministrator called hit the fan posted above, then you are in the cult of Karma DieHards! Keep the fans in some form Riot, we supported what many called an unfinished champion for 2 years, so please make this sacrifice for us and show us you support the minority of us as well!