4 easy steps to completely fix Rengar

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Holy Malevolence

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03-09-2013

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Rengar as of now is a bit subpar compared to other superior Assassins like Khazix or Akali
First off, don't confuse **** design bruisers for assassins. Rengar's no assassin.
Second, no. You can't buff a problem without first addressing why it's a problem. And admittedly in Rengar's case that would mean he needs a full rework, but even if not you fail to even touch on anything that directly leads to his needing to be in this terrible state so as to not be a problem.


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ScrubbingitOut

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03-09-2013

all the said buffs, buff his top lane......
reduce 10 minion dmg on w, the terror of trading with him at toplane again

although i do agree that his w needs some sort of dmg buff, but i think the intended design by riot was that it suppose to be a defensive skill


pretty much he needs a rework, his kit has waaayyy to much which was the reason he was nerfed to oblivion, he had burst tankyness and sustain all without mana, he was basically an unremovable rock from toplane


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Xizz3l

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03-09-2013

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First off, don't confuse **** design bruisers for assassins. Rengar's no assassin.
Second, no. You can't buff a problem without first addressing why it's a problem. And admittedly in Rengar's case that would mean he needs a full rework, but even if not you fail to even touch on anything that directly leads to his needing to be in this terrible state so as to not be a problem.
Oh I could tell you what his problems are
Also, it's new to me that stealth isn't part of an Assassin playstyle.
Welp, seems like Evelynn is a bruiser now!


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Zerglinator

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03-09-2013

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Or as said by Xelnath:

"If he gets the first kill he's incredibly strong"
I've seen champions get First Blood and be terrible.


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Dr W

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03-09-2013

1) Revert
2) Revert
3) Revert
4) Revert


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Riinegan

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03-09-2013

bump for some little rengar buffs


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Xizz3l

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03-09-2013

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all the said buffs, buff his top lane......
reduce 10 minion dmg on w, the terror of trading with him at toplane again

although i do agree that his w needs some sort of dmg buff, but i think the intended design by riot was that it suppose to be a defensive skill
No, all of them said buffs affect both, top and Jungle.
Higher Q damage -> Better jungle clear
Higher W damage -> Better Jungle clear
Less miniondmg -> More sustained jungle clear
Higher HP reg -> More sustained jungle clear

That being said, lategame Junglegar is still the same deal as topgar is, he's weak as hell

@Dr W

I never asked to revert the full nerfs but the Riot went completly overboard with the them ._.


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ScrubbingitOut

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Oh I could tell you what his problems are
Also, it's new to me that stealth isn't part of an Assassin playstyle.
Welp, seems like Evelynn is a bruiser now!
stealth =/= assassin

by ur logic vayne and twitch should dive the enemy squishes then?


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Xizz3l

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stealth =/= assassin

by ur logic vayne and twitch should dive the enemy squishes then?
Never said stealth marks an assassin but it's part of an assassin playstyle.
Also as of right now, building Rengar Tanky makes him useless because the damage is non-existent.
And yet, Twitch and Vayne are capable to assassinate squishies if they have proper positioning


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ScrubbingitOut

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No, all of them said buffs affect both, top and Jungle.
Higher Q damage -> Better jungle clear
Higher W damage -> Better Jungle clear
Less miniondmg -> More sustained jungle clear
Higher HP reg -> More sustained jungle clear

That being said, lategame Junglegar is still the same deal as topgar is, he's weak as hell

@Dr W

Not revert, just not overnerf
higher Q, before the nerfs he would instagib every1 at lvl 3 and would auto zone u if he was in the bush...
higher W, did u not read the dmg reduction done by minions?, it already gives free resists and sustain
less minion dmg, being able to tank creep waves early on in top lane is pretty broken seeing as the mastery changes were intended to fix that
higher hp regen, no problem here

his kits delicate, he already has way to much in his kit and trying to buff it is very hard to do