What Riot did to Kayle....

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Cambopple

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03-01-2013

Made it that when you poke, Q followed by 2-4 auto attacks, they now don't get bonus damage, you have to wait for the slow to be done, which when you poke you want to deal damage quickly and get out. Now you have to linger for 3 seconds to start doing bonus damage. Basically in lane Q's passive has no effect. Why not just nerf its base damage if its hurting early game too much and leave it so the rest of the game is fine...

You make me mad Riot


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something decent

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03-01-2013

agreed


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thumbnail9

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03-01-2013

Early game you lose 7-12 damage its not actually that much and late game you lose 36-56ish late game on E.

However they gave you 57.67%ish percent of your slow in exchanged for 10% damage. Maxing Q is brutal now, and if you catch someone in lane with that with E active what the hell are they going to do?


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Cambopple

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03-01-2013

It segregates the components of the skill itself. I can't think of any other skill in game where the effects they produce don't work together.


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Cambopple

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03-01-2013

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Originally Posted by thumbnail9 View Post
Early game you lose 7-12 damage its not actually that much and late game you lose 36-56ish late game on E.

However they gave you 57.67%ish percent of your slow in exchanged for 10% damage. Maxing Q is brutal now, and if you catch someone in lane with that with E active what the hell are they going to do?
7-12 damage each hit? If we assume she auto attacks 4 times after Q, that's a reduction of 28-48 damage each exchange. Which only gets larger late game.
I agree her Q will be potent catching someone out of position or in ganks though.


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BobbyOvsky

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03-01-2013

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Originally Posted by thumbnail9 View Post
Early game you lose 7-12 damage its not actually that much and late game you lose 36-56ish late game on E.

However they gave you 57.67%ish percent of your slow in exchanged for 10% damage. Maxing Q is brutal now, and if you catch someone in lane with that with E active what the hell are they going to do?
So now it's more like " Sure you can slow, but you cant dps, so what's the point on running away from kayle"

Do i get it right ?


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OnlyBotLane

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03-01-2013

With the q as it is it means you still get the boost while chasing or if you are trying to kite a tank or something but you don't have it in lane to 3 shot people at early levels.


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OnlyBotLane

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03-01-2013

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Originally Posted by thumbnail9 View Post
Early game you lose 7-12 damage its not actually that much and late game you lose 36-56ish late game on E.

However they gave you 57.67%ish percent of your slow in exchanged for 10% damage. Maxing Q is brutal now, and if you catch someone in lane with that with E active what the hell are they going to do?
Wasn't maxing Q already better than E?


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ChocoKelly

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03-01-2013

Did you watch Alex ich's stream yesterday? He hit 1 Q to Lulu %100 hp. Kayle was broken. She is also op atm, 3 seconds %55 slow its not decays over time and imagine Kayle almost a ranged champion.


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Ogaflow

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03-01-2013

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Originally Posted by thumbnail9 View Post
Early game you lose 7-12 damage its not actually that much and late game you lose 36-56ish late game on E.

However they gave you 57.67%ish percent of your slow in exchanged for 10% damage. Maxing Q is brutal now, and if you catch someone in lane with that with E active what the hell are they going to do?
If they have any kind of reliable gap closer, all in you and force you out of lane before lv6. Then proceed to zone you for the rest of the game.


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