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Sylvr

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02-04-2013

So, if the only way to not get frustrated by the new LP system is to ignore the number it displays (since it doesn't actually represent your progress into a tier, nor your skill), then what's the point of having it?


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Habatch

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02-04-2013

you know i loved the elo system because i cand see progress in the whole scheme of things. i went from 700-1200 in 1 month and was overjoyed to being showed that i am better than what i am. i was around 1170 when this new system came out and i was placed #2 in bronze 1. i was like wow i can just win a few and be permanently in silver. i play 5 games and win 4. im at around 75 and i lose 2 straight games. 1 of them i clearly did bad while the other was out of my control. i went down to 38 and was felt that it is alright. i still have 38. i win 1 up to 51 and then lose down to 33. i win 2 and go to 67 and then lose 3 and i get demoted to bronze 2 and have 50 points to start with. i vow to quit this game if i drop to division 3 as from the way these players play i know that i dont belong. i criticize myself as i used to absolutely suck but i have gotten much better. i feel this new system is the opposite of the intent they had. i didnt care what i was ranked in the world. as long as i knew that number i had been made fun of for months was going up i felt good. now i dont know what to do as the vegetables of the deep dark depths of what was known as elo hell must have all smurfed it up to join my league and have fun double adcing and playing master yi


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Gamer43

Junior Member

02-04-2013

The same thing happens with ELO

In another DoTA style MOBA game I play,

three wins gets me like 2-3 ELO rating each win

one loss drops me by 7-8.

Although I do agree ELO never behaved at such a degree you guys are describing.


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Kelly Price

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02-04-2013

It would be nice if we could actually see our MMR.

Just saying.


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LeSmith

Member

02-04-2013

So you need 100% winrate past 90 LP


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Straynar

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02-04-2013

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Originally Posted by Zydion View Post
After understanding that, I just kept playing, expecting to have at least 6 wins over loses for the system to no longer clamp me. However, after hovering a couple times around 90LP (losing more than gaining of course), I qualified for my series from winning one game after dropping to 85 LP. I gained 15 LP from that game, which I assumed since I was winning more than I lost, the clamping went away. I eventually went on to winning my series 3-2 now I'm in Plat Div 5. You could tell how tense I was in the last game when Sivir was 0-7 and Teemo was 0-5 and I was losing top. But no one raged and eventually we pulled through and won. It was a great game and the plat now feels well earned knowing that I won't lose it.
Hope you get to feel the pain of getting bumped down after moving up a division. This will open your eyes on something else then.


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baaztty

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02-04-2013

wow


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Inios

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02-05-2013

This system is really deceiving and frustrating...

Silver Division I
Started out top 5 in this division when S3 began....
First 5 games, went 5-0 to 85 points (100%)
Lost the next 2 to 47 points. Record thus far: 5-2 (71%)
Won the next 8 games to 98 points. From 94 to 98, I gained 1 LP each time. Record thus far: 13-2 (87%)
Lost the next 3 (1 fair match, 2 trolls) and back down to 50. Record: 13-5 (72%)

I'd like to see more transparency on this "LP clamping"...would love Riot's input on this.


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JoeyMakesMagic

Senior Member

02-05-2013

This new system is absolutely awful. Elo felt much more rewarding as I could actually track my progress. Right now i'm probably winning 60% of games but it doesn't show in my league because losses subtract so much LP. Wins aren't even satisfying anymore and losses feel so much worse. I am not motivated to play ranked at all, it doesn't feel competitive and simply increases stress. This game is going the wrong direction in a goddamn hurry.


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Infinite Veritas

Player Support Specialist

02-05-2013
5 of 6 Riot Posts

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Originally Posted by My R Key Broke View Post
curious how many rioters play in silver or bronze division for extensive periods of time.
I can't speak for all Rioters, but I've been in Bronze/Silver for a long time. I've played quite a few games already with the new League System and so far I really like it. Mostly because I do feel like I'm working towards a much more manageable goal. That being said, I haven't reached a series yet where I will qualify for a new tier, but it's fun working towards it, so we'll see what happens