### DFG and eve ult

Camel Scary

Senior Member

with eves ult not dealing percent damage and DFG doing max damage is it worth it to dfg before eve ulting? as the active will damge them and reduce her ult damage(currnt hp) but also increasing her ult damage from magic damage increase.
So my question is at what point is it not worth it to DFG before eves ult?

Dulkan

Member

Let me do the math for you.

You attack a full health target,
Rank 2 Ult, no ap

Ult first: -20%, dfg -15% = 65% health
DFG first: -15% = 85% -20*1.2 = -24%. 24% of 85 = 20.4% -> 64.6% health

Rank 3 Ult, no ap
Ult first: -25%, dfg -15% = 60% health
DFG first: 85% - 25*1.2 = -30%. 30% of 85 = 25.5 -> 59.5%

Rank 3 Ult, 500 AP
Ult first: -30%, dfg -15% = 55% health
DFG first: 85% - 30*1.2 = -36%. 36% of 85 = 30.6 -> 54.4%

So you can clearly see, that DFG first is very slightly better, but it's almost not noticeable. Basically per 1% dmg on your ult, dfg first is 0.02% max health better.

On a half health target with Rank 2 Ult, no ap

ult first: -10%-15% = 25%
dfg first: 35% health after dfg, 24% of 35 = 8.4 -> 26.6% health left

Also, the lower your target is, the better ult first becomes. But still the difference is minor.

Crosbie

Senior Member

Wow. The difference is so marginally small, I'd prefer to use the DFG upon reaching my target for the Ravage and hate spikes to receive the full 4 second buff.