Thanks for turning BFT into a one slot build, Nome

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General Quackers

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01-20-2013

250 health
20% CDR
15 flat MPen
80 AP
Mp5 (w/e)
Passive that deals a ton of extra magic damage with zero extra effort

Really Nome, this brilliant. Every AP build is still all about finishing BFT asap; but now it's even better once you finish it. BFT + Sorc Shoes is amazing damage and gives any caster amazing presence.

Nome, excuse my language, but Dominion is ****ing bland now. It's impossible to play any champ without building either Black Cleaver or BFT; these two items fit into any build for AD or AP respectively. I can't blame you entirely for Black Cleaver being way too good to pass up because I'm sure the SR balance team has their hands all over it; but ffs, Nome, BFT is so good you even see it being built on AD champs. It's like a S1 Trinity Force for casters.


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ThioCyanate

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01-20-2013

I like bft :-P


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Volandum

Senior Member

01-20-2013

It's not "better" - BFT is old BFT + Codex minus 20 AP. It's actively nerfed. Still ubiquitous though.


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General Quackers

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01-20-2013

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It's not "better" - BFT is old BFT + Codex minus 20 AP. It's actively nerfed. Still ubiquitous though.
It's better, and now it's a must rush no matter which AP you're playing. It literally packs every AP stat you'd ever want in Dom into one item.


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inFe eD

Senior Member

01-20-2013

It is 100% a nerf. I vastly prefer the old BFT since it didn't cost ~4k gold and take half the game to make.


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ZallKlos

Senior Member

01-20-2013

It's a nerf. I played a game with Infeed, he finished with Lantern, CDR boots, Cleaver, LW. With 800g less than him, I had Pros Ring, BFT, Merc's. The power gap was huge.


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radicalratx

Senior Member

01-20-2013

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Originally Posted by Original Duck View Post
250 health
20% CDR
15 flat MPen
80 AP
Mp5 (w/e)
Passive that deals a ton of extra magic damage with zero extra effort

Really Nome, this brilliant. Every AP build is still all about finishing BFT asap; but now it's even better once you finish it. BFT + Sorc Shoes is amazing damage and gives any caster amazing presence.

Nome, excuse my language, but Dominion is ****ing bland now. It's impossible to play any champ without building either Black Cleaver or BFT; these two items fit into any build for AD or AP respectively. I can't blame you entirely for Black Cleaver being way too good to pass up because I'm sure the SR balance team has their hands all over it; but ffs, Nome, BFT is so good you even see it being built on AD champs. It's like a S1 Trinity Force for casters.

Old BFT was so much better.


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SirLucious LftFt

Senior Member

01-20-2013

i liked the old BFT WAY BETTER. for certain ones the new one is great tho. like on someone i just wanted more CDR on anyways.

its a huge nerf for tanky AP. It used to be such a good cheap item that any tank could grab early for solid offence throughout the game. It was really the cost that made it OP and the cost raise the nerfed it IMO


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naotasan

Senior Member

01-20-2013

The only thing I hate is how bft cdr doesn't stack with Athene's Unholy Grail cdr.

It makes building Karma really really hard to do.


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Talith PA

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01-20-2013

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The only thing I hate is how bft cdr doesn't stack with Athene's Unholy Grail cdr.
What? Why wouldn't it? If you aren't getting 35% cdr from having both then that is a pretty big bug.