Manamune>>>Archangels??????

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The Boss FBH

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01-06-2013

Im watching WIngsofDeathx's stream right now and hes playing top ryze. He built a manamune out of tear of the goddess instead of archangels and im wondering why. Because wouldnt the ap and shield from seraphims embrace be better than ad? someone please enlighten me


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ExecutionerKen

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01-06-2013

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Originally Posted by The Boss FBH View Post
Im watching WIngsofDeathx's stream right now and hes playing top ryze. He built a manamune out of tear of the goddess instead of archangels and im wondering why. Because wouldnt the ap and shield from seraphims embrace be better than ad? someone please enlighten me
Autoattack on Ryze for more damage, the AP isn't as much needed, but obviously the shield is nice

Also, nothing that wingsofdeath does is original anyway...


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Cenerae

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01-06-2013

Some people like Manamune on Ryze for pushing towers.

I personally don't often find much time for autoattacking with him when fighting champs, so cannot really see the value in the item, but I guess if you do, you will probably squeeze more damage from the Muramana than a Seraph's.


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PogoPogoPogoPogo

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01-06-2013

Manamune stacks mana up faster than Tear or Archangels since it also stacks on auto-attacks. Plus a lot of people like the upgraded Manamune active better than the Archangels active for Ryze.

Honestly, there's really nothing wrong with building both items.


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TheOneMillion

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01-06-2013

Its because of the muramana PAssive. W, Q, and auto attacks all proc it, and it will start at around 200+ Magic damage extra for EACH one of those. Also since its Magic, all the penetration is put to good use. The AP from AA cant even come close to putting out as much dmg as the muramanas passive. Yes ryze is a sustained damage champ, but muramana gives him insane burst as well.

Just dont forget to turn it off after you are done fighting champs.


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The Boss FBH

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01-06-2013

oh. i didnt know it procced on his abilities. ty


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Uncanny Doom

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01-06-2013

Honestly the muramana active is much better for Ryze than seraph's shield since he gets so tanky with his typical builds that he doesn't really need the shield for defense. Having something to take more advantage of his mana for damage works better in most situations.


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Cenerae

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01-06-2013

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Originally Posted by TheOneMillion View Post
Its because of the muramana PAssive. W, Q, and auto attacks all proc it, and it will start at around 200+ Magic damage extra for EACH one of those. Also since its Magic, all the penetration is put to good use. The AP from AA cant even come close to putting out as much dmg as the muramanas passive. Yes ryze is a sustained damage champ, but muramana gives him insane burst as well.

Just dont forget to turn it off after you are done fighting champs.
Goes to show what you miss by not reading the tooltips properly. I had no idea it procced on abilities. <_<