RlOT IS NERFING TALON?!

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Nintura

Senior Member

12-24-2012

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Originally Posted by Hendstron View Post
you're a noob
just switch the lanes -.-
if you let your squish lux go mid vs a talon, you are bad

you're a noob.
just switch the lanes back.
if you let your talon get outplayed by switching lanes, you are bad.


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Mjaxon

Senior Member

12-24-2012

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The reality is that many of our AD casters were tuned to a state where they could exist in Season 2 with extremely poor itemization that was non-ideal for them.
In other words, you finetuned them to suck in Season 2, and you're looking to re-tune them back to that state for Season 3.


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Hendstron

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12-24-2012

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Originally Posted by Nintura View Post
you're a noob.
just switch the lanes back.
if you let your talon get outplayed by switching lanes, you are bad.
how about 2 mid?


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SirKolo

Member

12-28-2012

does talons cutthroat never work, or just sometimes bugs? anyone have the numbers/data?


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huskandhunger

Senior Member

12-31-2012

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Originally Posted by gypsylord View Post
There's a reason this bug has been around for so long without anyone noticing it. It lies to you. Say your autoattack does 100 damage. If you max rank E a guy (15% damage amp) and then autoattack him the red damage text will falsely read "115" even though your enemy's health will only be decreased by 100.

Now that I know this, I kind of feel embarrassed when I E onto someone. Like a tiger without his teeth somehow.


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Blaine Tog

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12-31-2012

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Originally Posted by gypsylord View Post
Say a champion's ult was intended to do 5000 true damage but there was this nasty bug that made it ACTUALLY do 1 damage. If we were to go and fix said bug we would be BUFFING that champion's damage by 4999.

Talon's E currently amps his damage by 0% for two seconds against a single target, regardless of rank. This bugfix will buff his single target burst by 15% when E is at max rank.
Not to yell "Gotcha!" but a few months back when Soraka's E was fixed to say it dealt .6 when it was intended to deal .75 but actually just dealt .6, the party line was consistently "this is not a nerf, it's a bug fix." What's the difference here?


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Noxctis

Senior Member

12-31-2012

noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo............!!!


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Necroing

Senior Member

04-13-2013

AD Casters: Caitlyn, Corki, Ezreal, Gangplank, Kha'Zix, Master Yi, Pantheon, Sivir (against ap bursters like Leblanc, Morgana, Veigar unviable against others.), TALON , Tristana, Zed. Those are the only acceptable AD mids you could pretty much just like the other carries however they lack the range and CC for mid and are very easy to gank. As a jungler if I saw for instance Draven mid I'd camp him cause of his bad escapes or Vayne because of her terrible early game. Anyways the point I'm trying to make is you shouldn't ever consider AD mids to be OP? Why cause AP tanks will always beat them or if you're an ap with great range you can still lane against them. AP tanks completely destroy AD casters and if not worse case it becomes a farm lane.
List of AP tanks and high range AP's that can lane against AD casters: Akali, Brand, Cassiopeia, CHO'GATH (you won't beat him), Diana, MUNDO (he goes where he pleases and so much sustain), Elise, Fiddlesticks (AD caster no CC weak counter), Fizz, Galio, Gragas, Heimerdinger, Kayle, Leblanc (AD caster no CC weak counter), Lux( AD caster no gap closer weak counter), Malzahar (provided they don't get QSS weak counter), MORDEKAISER (good luck beating him no ganks he'll make you cry mid lane), Morgana (can't dodge snares or no gap closer weak counter), NIDALEE (once you get level 3 spears and are hitting them they'll cry), NUNU (snowball you everytime and has godly sustain), Ryze ( can be beat if you have more range weak counter), SION (seriously take another lane his stun range and that godly sustain), Swain (bird and once he gets ult you'll lose trades), Twisted Fate( decent player will always keep you away never goes oom with his blue card), Veigar( if they have no gap closer weak counter), Viktor (very underplayed but he's such a good harasser and his W makes you scared), Xerath ( so much range and CC switch lanes), Ziggs( harasses well and uses bomb to get away). The point I'm trying to make with my long post is that AD casters are great in their state and they can be beat. I'd rather face them mid than have Amumu,Blitzcrank, Malphite,Shen, Akali who greatly change outcomes of teamfights.


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Titiln

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04-15-2013

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No, we have no intention of making Talon unviable, we're simply looking to find a balance for him in the context of Season 3.
lold


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Fenix9000

Senior Member

05-02-2013

Necro for a good cause