AP Mages are losing their place in League

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Risemix

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12-21-2012

Bruisers are stronger in lane than every champion type except themselves. They have higher base stats, better and more consistent trading ability, and so forth, part of the reason they can usually jungle but AP mages can't. The only reasons we put AP casters mid is because they had CC and mobility that allowed them to gank and to a lesser extent because a balanced team needed varying types of damage. But bruisers now have so much control and mobility, and with the inclusion of Black Cleaver and the ArPen changes, magic damage isn't super necessary either.

Recently, all AP are bringing to a team that can't be offered by someone else is magic damage, and frankly, that's not good enough. Bruisers and AD casters have as much if not more burst, as much control, and in many cases, more mobility.

AP casters are losing their place in League of Legends. They're becoming a frail, immobile liability. They don't scale as well into late game. Magic damage isn't enough. Soon, many if not most of them will cease to be used. It's already happening and it's really disappointing.


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Risemix

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12-21-2012

One bump because the forums move really fast, and this is on page 2 less than a minute after it was posted.


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Firellius

Senior Member

12-21-2012

AP is the worst stat in the game. Has been for a very long time now. Season 3 only made it worse.


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Joebags

Senior Member

12-21-2012

Completely agree. Burst casters got big nerfs when Riot decided to nerf deathcap, LB, void staff, and DFG all at once. Plus, with everyone stacking HP for cheap now, it's very hard to take someone out with just one combo, which is what most burst casters rely on.


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pro4never

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12-21-2012

Play utility or cleanup style AP's and you'll find they are still hella strong.

Anivia and oriana for huge utility and great damage
katarina/karthus for cleanup and map presence

New DFG gave a nice viability boost to heavy bursters like annie/veigar/syndra
New archangels gave a nice boost to tanky sustained ap characters like swain and ryze


They're less required but still plenty strong.


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JayShyTooFly

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12-21-2012

Bump


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ElementzPRO

Senior Member

12-21-2012

yep
riot dont care

Mostly AP are only picked for utility now


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EzSkillshot

Senior Member

12-21-2012

Why is this getting upvoted?
Toyz laugh at this thread.
Strongest bruisers does not bring nearly the amount of utility the strongest AP carries have.


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ElementzPRO

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12-21-2012

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Originally Posted by pro4never View Post
Play utility or cleanup style AP's and you'll find they are still hella strong.

Anivia and oriana for huge utility and great damage
katarina/karthus for cleanup and map presence

New DFG gave a nice viability boost to heavy bursters like annie/veigar/syndra
New archangels gave a nice boost to tanky sustained ap characters like swain and ryze


They're less required but still plenty strong.

utility mages are boring though
new dfg is a noobtrap btw just getting void staff will add more damage to every target rather than the just one of dfg


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ElementzPRO

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12-21-2012

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Originally Posted by EzSkillshot View Post
Why is this getting upvoted?
Toyz laugh at you guys.
Toyz plays utility mages like everyone else