RlOT IS NERFING TALON?!

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NoGoodInGoodbye

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12-20-2012

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Originally Posted by gypsylord View Post
Say a champion's ult was intended to do 5000 true damage but there was this nasty bug that made it ACTUALLY do 1 damage. If we were to go and fix said bug we would be BUFFING that champion's damage by 4999.

Talon's E currently amps his damage by 0% for two seconds against a single target, regardless of rank. This bugfix will buff his single target burst by 15% when E is at max rank.
Has it not been working 100% of the time or something like 0.01 chance of not amplifying damage?


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RavenMagus

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12-20-2012

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Originally Posted by Reynfall View Post
Not really. Reducing a part of his base damage or ratios causes his entire damage output to fall down since, well, he can only do one type of damage.

It is a domino effect that is very heavy.
Not really. Reducing his base damage or ratios reduces his base damage or ratios. Yes, it causes his damage output to fall, but doing only one type of damage doesn't suddenly amplify the effects of his damage loss. Most champions in the game only do one type of damage, or are only ever built to do one type of damage. Only a handful actually do significant damage in multiple types.


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Meister

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12-20-2012

He's been at the top of the charts for winrate in season 3 for a while.

It wasn't just Black Cleaver. Talon is ridiculous with the new items and buffs to ad casters. He's been comfortably many points above 50% winrate: http://www.lolking.net/charts?region...e&range=weekly


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Sojs

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12-20-2012

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Originally Posted by Fubby2 View Post
Explain how ONE ITEM changes a champ from **** to "Free Elo bus"

IT DOESNT.
talon wasn't sht he was always viable in solo queue


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Thane Soren

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12-20-2012

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Originally Posted by Brynwolf View Post
Fuc.k your black cleaver or any item you think,nerf that kind of **** not talon,are you braindead

GO FUC.K YOURSELFS
We're getting shafted, bro

They have no reason for this


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topgunLT1

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12-20-2012

talon is one of my favorite champs and i have to say with the new armor penetration effects he really feels OP now, did u count how many enemy champs u could burst down in an instant sometimes its more than 1 in just a single team fight. :O
thats too op, ppl say darius needs nerf but he still can only hit ulti 1 champion ppl -_- , talon is heavy aoe burst assasin.
i was looking forward for a nerf.


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AHeroNamedHawke1

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12-20-2012

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He's been at the top of the charts for winrate in season 3 for a while.

It wasn't just Black Cleaver. Talon is ridiculous with the new items and buffs to ad casters. He's been comfortably many points above 50% winrate: http://www.lolking.net/charts?region...e&range=weekly
Ezreal is at 52%, he also has a 52% pick rate
Taric has a 55% win rate
Rumble has a 55% win rate
MF has a 54% win rate
Eve has a 54% win rate
Amumu has a 54% win rate
TF has a 54% win rate

Where are their nerfs?


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NotBuzzJack

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12-20-2012

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Originally Posted by gypsylord View Post
Say a champion's ult was intended to do 5000 true damage but there was this nasty bug that made it ACTUALLY do 1 damage. If we were to go and fix said bug we would be BUFFING that champion's damage by 4999.

Talon's E currently amps his damage by 0% for two seconds against a single target, regardless of rank. This bugfix will buff his single target burst by 15% when E is at max rank.
So what you're saying is Darius' ult should do 1 damage, right?


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XxFadexX

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12-20-2012

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Originally Posted by Ding an Sich View Post
I'm not sure how long you've been around, but depending if you have, something similar was happening with rumble way back in mid-late s2. Basically Rumble's flamespitter was under performing in a HUGE way. Xyph alleviated this by cleaning it up and fixing a bug, which basically shot rumble into the new FOTM even though people didn't notice until way after the buff was on.

You'd be surprised how much a simple fixed ability can do/
You would be also be suprised how much a .5 nerf to his total scaling was, even more so because he only scales off of one type of damage.


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Borigrad

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12-20-2012

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talon wasn't sht he was always viable in solo queue
Talon is good until late game. He's always been notorious for not being able to carry long games cause of his mechanics.

He gets stunned/Silenced and dies like all melee carries/assassins do late game. That don't have resets built into their kit.