Black Cleaver is broken

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Dryad Soraka

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12-08-2012

This game is so broken right now it's unbelievable. Why does Pantheon and Garen's E abilities trigger this? It gives too much armor pen and shred and too much attack damage, someone can build just these and own an entire team. I know it's being nerfed but it's not enough.

It's BS really, I've lost nearly every game since the patch because Garen and Pantheon players are building nearly just these. Even one is too strong.


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JustMyBassCannon

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12-08-2012

The point of Black Cleaver's rework was to make an AD caster item, which they sorely needed.

Riot also managed to make a bunch of other changes at once, and I'm willing to bet you're still reeling from the number of changes, seeing how the average community member will take between a week to 6 months to start bending to changes instead of complaining about them.

It's true Cleaver should have been Unique on the ArPen passives, but I'm still going to say learn to play.


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CounterSnipe

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12-08-2012

It needs a unique passive. Should have never been released as it was. For shame, Riot. For shame.


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Yankesik

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12-09-2012

Make CDR and ArPen unique, problem solved...


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Chaz5

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12-09-2012

I don't see why people are complaining about the passive not being unique, it still will only put up to 4 stacks on an enemy player from what I can see but will simply build those stacks faster with a second black cleaver. You would be better off with a last whisper as a second item


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JustMyBassCannon

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12-09-2012

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Originally Posted by Chaz5 View Post
I don't see why people are complaining about the passive not being unique, it still will only put up to 4 stacks on an enemy player from what I can see but will simply build those stacks faster with a second black cleaver. You would be better off with a last whisper as a second item
Someone mentioned there might be a bug with Black Cleaver allowing it to shred more than it can. Some people say it happens, some people say it doesn't...I know that mechanically it shouldn't be true, so if it does it's a bug.

But yes, just adding Last Whisper would be a far better item choice. Shred 30% of their Armor, then ignore 40% of what's left, then however much flat pen you have.


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Negrojefe

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12-09-2012

Its stupid, OP as hell, need unique at least on the Armor pen. Its stupid that you can get 40% armor pen in 2 hits.


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Negrojefe

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12-09-2012

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Originally Posted by Chaz5 View Post
I don't see why people are complaining about the passive not being unique, it still will only put up to 4 stacks on an enemy player from what I can see but will simply build those stacks faster with a second black cleaver. You would be better off with a last whisper as a second item
Try it out and you will see the stupid amount of burst you end up with.


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slimjimo10

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12-09-2012

The funny part is the black cleaver is the icon for the Item Discussion forums.


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Xenoith

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