Black Cleaver

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Rebonack

Senior Member

12-05-2012

If the global Pen aura is being removed then I really doubt that Cleaver will be an issue. Or at least not as much of an issue. That Pen aura has been skewing things in favor of tanky-types for WAY too long and should have departed ages ago.

Keep it in Dominion. See how it works out once the Pen aura is gone. Iterate from there.


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Rashidas

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12-05-2012

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Originally Posted by Sakuri Ono View Post
3. Make the passive unique.

Neither option you give is viable. Removing it outright kicks AD in the nads; leaving it in as is allows for abusive item combinations that'll hurt Low ELO/Entry Level Dom more than high level play. It's basically the 'Kassadin Effect' in item form.
This I agree with, I feel both of the given options are horrible and not thought out well enough.


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Dominus Arts

Member

12-05-2012

For the moment I vote for option 2 until BC gets properly adjusted

Not to mention it should be done asap as hotfix anyway.

I'd also like to bring up option 3: "One choice option"

You Buy Black Cleaver: You cannot buy Last Whisper or Another Black Cleaver
You Buy Last Whisper: You cannot buy Black Cleaver or Another Last Whisper


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SPG Neostyle

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12-05-2012

Option 2 at the moment.


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Sakuri Ono

Senior Member

12-05-2012

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Originally Posted by RiotNome View Post
No, it just won't happen in time... at least not the most developer-friendly way to do it.

In time for...what? It's not exactly like Dom has Ranked coming right out the gate of S3 or any major Riot-Name-Brand Tournaments around the bend. A proper, slow solution is better than a half-effort, quick one. I'd rather have the Unique Passive option be implemented at a guaranteed rate of 'Soon TM' than either of these granted as the 'end of the matter fix' by next patch.


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iSzathi

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12-05-2012

cant really tell till the aura is gone.


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Derention

Junior Member

12-05-2012

Option 2

This item needs to be readjusted.


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Das Strychnine

Senior Member

12-05-2012

Option 2 ofc....

It's not that I think the item is OP, it's just that, it is kinda silly to watch 4 people in your team/enemy team build nothing but Black Cleavers.


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Skulleer

Member

12-05-2012

Tanks have been over-powered on Dominion for too long. I vote 1.

If the aura is definitely being removed, why don't we see how that goes first before we change this as well?


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NavyGothic

Senior Member

12-05-2012

Get rid of it until you can replace with a sane version.


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