Zed is the new Talon

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Siegfryd

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11-14-2012

Talon is better in every way compared to Zed except for mana, that is the only thing that Zed has that Talon doesn't completely outclass.


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LordTobiothan

Senior Member

11-14-2012

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Originally Posted by KetiaX View Post
He actually does deal damage, but it's too focused on 1 target on early-mid game (you rely on ult to assassinate), and late game you'll just get bursted down before you kill anyone because you have no sustain nor do you have a CC to stop anyone from attacking you
This statement right here is the sole reason people call assassins UP until they get buffed and then nerfed into the ground.

If all the assassin can do is burst a single squishy person to 0, and then is relatively worthless, he is an extremely balanced assassin and requires no changes. This is literally all an assassin is supposed to be able to do. Don't like it? Pick a different class.


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Super Explosion

Senior Member

11-14-2012

Here's the thing--

Talon's nerf revolved around his Rake spamming.

It was easy, cheap harassment, that was difficult to dodge.

Now Zed has easy cheap harassment, but it is reasonably easier to dodge.

Hence not as much of an issue.

Why did Talon fade fast? Because without that cheap harass and farming giving him lane control, he's quite bad.

Talon needs a big gold advantage to do much, especially against the bruisers he tends to face top lane.

Without the ranged harassment and waveclearing giving him that gold, he becomes supremely ineffective.

Zed, even if they nerf him, will still be able to farm and poke near-infinitely from range due to using Energy.


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DualAxes

Senior Member

11-14-2012

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Originally Posted by Super Explosion View Post
Here's the thing--

Talon's nerf revolved around his Rake spamming.

It was easy, cheap harassment, that was difficult to dodge.

Now Zed has easy cheap harassment, but it is reasonably easier to dodge.

Hence not as much of an issue.

Why did Talon fade fast? Because without that cheap harass and farming giving him lane control, he's quite bad.

Talon needs a big gold advantage to do much, especially against the bruisers he tends to face top lane.

Without the ranged harassment and waveclearing giving him that gold, he becomes supremely ineffective.

Zed, even if they nerf him, will still be able to farm and poke near-infinitely from range due to using Energy.

so Zed is better than talon


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DualAxes

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11-14-2012

bump


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DualAxes

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11-14-2012

bump


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bob000

Senior Member

11-14-2012

The problem with Zed is that literally all of his damage is on his ult.


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The Iron Dingus

Senior Member

11-14-2012

I really think his second part of his clone should be taking off where he teleport to his clone, It has a good escape when he's an assassin he should be able to dish out alot of damage where he shouldn't be allowed to escape such as Darius where he does great damage but he has no escape.


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ChildishGregbino

Senior Member

11-14-2012

you guys are all low elo scrubs, he has no damage.

idk what happens at 900 elo but here he does nothing


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NEXMaRin

Senior Member

11-14-2012

You are not worthy of an ELO higher than 800 for saying Zed and damage with a positive connotation.