So, here's how to make Volibear less of... well cheese and more of a real champion.

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Atyres

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11-12-2012

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Originally Posted by zeebo69 View Post
rammus, shen, malphite, yorick. i guess thats not that many.
So your favorite champions have been very over powered before they were pulled down...gotcha....


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zeebo69

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11-12-2012

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So your favorite champions have been very over powered before they were pulled down...gotcha....
no actually they were first balanced then they got buffed cus everyone complained about them being "underpowered".


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LordPopple

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11-12-2012

Just let him ignore unit collision when he activates his Q.

I fixed Volibear, you're welcome.


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Atyres

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11-12-2012

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Originally Posted by zeebo69 View Post
no actually they were first balanced then they got buffed cus everyone complained about them being "underpowered".
I hate to break this to you, but three of them were grossly overpowered before they were nerfed, then brought back up a bit with a buff then got nerfed again. Some of it simply is their kit. Rammus in the jungle with a 3 second taunt that makes skarner blush with envy was silly. Similar items for Shen and Malphite too. Yorick just causes a stale lane, but that is his design.


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zeebo69

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11-12-2012

k well imma play voli every game to show people hes good and wrecks team fights


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Snakeblade

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11-12-2012

He really only needs jungle buff. His damage is great and he snowballs like a boss. His fear resetting jungle creeps is rediculous


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Saigo Getsuga

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11-12-2012

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Originally Posted by hashinshin View Post
Right now Volibear sucks. HOWEVER, some people do use him as a sort of lane cheese. He's not very viable at it and it's sort of a worse renekton but it does exist.

HOWEVER, I have determined how to take volibear, make him no longer cheese and make him a well rounded character all game around without touching his playstyle in the slightest.

Bullet point form!

Reduce the damage of his W to 60/105/150/195/240 from 80/125/170/215/260
Reduce the CD of his W to 16/15/14/13/12 from 18/18/18/18/18.
Why? This ability has always done too much base damage, but the cooldown was obscene. In addition, the ratio (15% health) was WAYYYY too low for its CD. It brings it more in line and allows him more sustained damage.

Reduce/Increase the damage of his Q to 15/45/75/105/135 +1.2 AD from 30/60/90/120/150 +1.0 AD.
Why? Reduces his early ganking damage by a bit, which is where he's really mean in the jungle. In return though he scales better in to the late game.

E gains a 10% HP ratio.
Why? To give him more damage and late game scaling, and to make up for the previous nerfs

Ultimate now passively gives him the damage single target every third attack (75/115/155.) Apon activated its replaced by the current active.
Why? So Volibear isn't such an ult-or-bust champion. The damage would still be way below Jax's, but it would just give him more sustained damage normally.

Tada. Same champion, just has the numbers jumbled around a bit to be more balanced at all stages of the game. No longer a diabolical jungler, no longer a cheese laner, more of a well balanced around the entire game champion.
bro hashin, i read your Xin guide in LolPro, awesome.


Is current Xin, tournament material?


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frankied14

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11-12-2012

Volibear his fine. He makes a great aggressive bot lane support and an awesome jungler.


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Pawstruck

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11-12-2012

Or we could just make his W do scaling AD true damage and refresh on kill.

-_-


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Battletick

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11-12-2012

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Volibear's not a tank, he's not meant to absorb damage, he's meant to get inside the enemy team, do aoe damage, and execute someone.
He can do that as a tank too, I'm not saying he needs 100% tank items though. As a tank he can run in and do whatever he wants and be unkillable, while dealing decent AOE damage over the battle and instantly killing anyone who gets low. He's also can an annoying displacement and a powerful AoE snare.

Unless Riot doesn't update this then how is Shen a true tank but Volibear isn't? (Based on base stats)


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