Ok, so not to play the blame game, but if I am an ADC and I am literally buying all of the wards for my lane because my "support" is not warding at all, and is instead hugging the turret a full minion wave behind me, making no attempt to deter my opponents from plowing me right out of lane while I am trying to defensively CS, and won't even stand close enough to get experience for themselves, it is not unreasonable for me to be aggravated by this scenario, is it?
Though I should note that the match in question helped teach me the importance of buying wards as an ADC, as I had previously thought, like many others, that the goal was to build straight into late game and leave warding to my support.
I had a match, played jungle Kha'zix with a seemingly okay team starting. I noticed they had Shyv jungling but we did not invade, and in retrospect we should have to take their red or their blue. While jungling Shyv counter jungled and killed me by our golems on top lane, and my top lane wukong didn't try to finish her off. Don't know whether or not the enemy Xin would've been able to kill him after the fact. During that point our mid Karthus got killed by Kat, he bailed on the match, and from then on we quickly got snowballed.
Other than what we could've done better at the beginning of the match I'm not sure what we could've done to keep from getting snowballed. Enemy team had my jungle completely warded.
Hey i read till SUPPORT LIKE A F****** BOSS and im like. hell yea i agree haha.
People want to play top mid or ad carry bottom thinking if they do good they will win. But like your solo queueing in rank and you dont know any of them whether theyre good or not. So isnt it better in that situation to play a character that will help them be good if they're not good rather than playing a char that doesnt help any chars out? What im tryna say is your getting a support char kind of benefits the entire team if the support is good. And getting a carry doesnt benefit the entire team as much. If the support does well the carrys generally does well. Carry does well then they do well but that doesnt really affect the others cus they most of the time are in their lane farming. And by carrys i mean top mid and bottom damage. Support is the jungler and support that helps bot. The supporters are like the centerblock that lets the carrys actually carry right? Thats what i tihnk of it.
When i played before i just played majority mid and ad carrys over jungle and support. Thats my season 1 rank and i just hovered around 1500-1600 after getting there. I played like 400 games and stayed around there. But when i learned from a friend that plays mainly support, he got up to 1800 and he stays aruond there. I consider him equal to me when we play together too so its like. Idk how to explain this im saying this 6 hours before school starts and im sleepy and im ranting bout this but lets end it here since i cant explain it very good. support helps the other team members do well. yes!? people need to learn that support actually helps more then they think
and i just read a few people think the way i do. high five
Really like this post. I feel like I play this game in the wrong moods so much that it leads to a downfall.
I have some questions, though. The primary reason I don't play support is not only because it's the "boring" role, but because I think I suck at it. I get wards, try to zone and poke the enemy, even try to destroy wards, but it always feels like I get behind somehow, even against the other support. Not to mention if my carry fails, then the support seems to suffer as well. I've experienced games where I can't even afford wards or oracles as a support because my lane gets steamrolled. How do I fix this?
Another thing, OP, you mention that there isn't much wrong in contributing to warding your bot lane, yet I've had players kind of scold me for doing such as an ADC, saying it's the support's job. Does it really matter if I get a single ward or not to help out? Most lower-ranked players (like myself, I"m at about 1200 ELO) treat it like it's a taboo.
Is it the support that's scolding you for buying your own wards, or other lanes?
If it's other lanes:
It's everyone's job to ward. This is not well understood at lower ELOs, which is why you'll find some people who like to tell you how to play say that. It's a good idea to buy extra wards at lower ELO, since supports often can't handle it alone.
If it's the support:
Some supports might feel that you buying wards is a dig at them suggesting that they're not warding enough/well or whatever. I myself have felt this way on some rare occasions - it depends more on if the ward coverage has been good or not. Still, this isn't likely to be a serious issue.
Hey guys a lot of you have posted so I'm just going to generalize, as a lot of the responses will be the same anyway.
On the subject of crappy teams - understand that even people who are in 2000 Elo lose games, you're going to lose games, and sometimes it won't be your fault, however the mistake you will make more often than not is thinking there was nothing you could do when in fact someone in higher Elo could have actually carried that game. Most of the decisions they would have made would have happened in the first 10 minutes. So when a lane fed their opponent 7 kills, it's your fault. If a lane goes 0/2 in the first five minutes, chances are they need help, but lower Elo never think of this, they're only worried about their lane. I often fall in this category, actually. The first two aren't your fault, but after that you need to think of that lane as your responsibility as well as your own lane. That's what carrying is. Your "in retrospects" are what will allow you to continually get better, always learn from your past games.
On the subjects of wards - if people are raging at you not to ward, chances are they are handling it, and you shouldn't need to ward. I usually grab a ward anyway and just leave it in my inventory all game until I need the space or it comes in handy - sometimes you don't want to face check, and sometimes you need a ward now, in these times having a ward on hand is...well...handy.
Jowabunga - your exact mentality is why I posted what I did in my original post about "Elo Hell." It's because of this mentality that statistics actually can't hold as strongly as people think it does. I've been all the way down to 500 Elo, and I can personally tell you that 500-900 Elo range there is absolutely no change in skill on average. Or if there is it's hardly noticeable. 900-1200 is likewise very similar.
Also my advice would be not to let it turn your vision red. Once you understand why something is happening, it shouldn't bother you that it's happening anymore - especially if it's out of your control. The best way to get people to follow is to actually lead, and one of the most important qualities for a leader is patience, another is diligence, and you need both to carry a team to victory in this game.
On another note entirely, someone has posted a troll topic "Why you lost (The true version)." Basically he's using and defacing the title of this thread to rage and throw blame on his teammates in his own thread. I would greatly appreciate it if any readers out here would downvote his thread to get it locked, I don't appreciate him defacing my guide, nor the disrespect it shows to the time I took to write it out.
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