AZF vs TSM: Lessons learned.

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Zilveren

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10-10-2012

1. Cheat, you make more money than you lose that way. The rules are actually set up as 20% of your current(not total) winnings. Riot is setting a precedent that cheating is frowned upon, but is still worth it in the end. Had AZF lost they would be walking away without a chance to win the entire tournament, and still less money than they received after being fined.

2. This is not about the money. Riot is not budging on this schedule thing, and refuses to do an actual respectable rematch between the teams. I'm not asking for DQ, even though teams have done less bad things and got DQ'd.

3. The fans didn't want AZF fined 20% of their money, they wanted them either DQ'd or to have a rematch with TSM. This is not just a TSM fan-boy thing but think about it this way. If one team cheated heavily in the NFL, do you really think it's okay to still let them win that game they cheated for and possibly get world champion without even a game restart?

4. Extending the world championship for the rematch would benefit Riot and the fans. Many of your fans are willing to stick with the stream later on to continue watching. Riot on the other hand stands to earn more money from viewership during this period. It really is a win: win situation.

TL;DR: Riot's mistake with the minimaps was not only bad, but their handling of the situation promotes cheating in some ways. Fans didn't want to see a fine, they wanted a rematch or DQ.


Edit: http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/....php?t=2663221 is their explanation. They explicitly say the Dyrus and Chaox looks had 0 gameplay implication (Done after the game was announced to be rematched) for the nay sayers, while explaining AZF's did in fact make a major difference. (Done after the other game was remade, this was in the middle of an ongoing un-rematched game.)

Edit 2: There has been suspicion of AZF cheating vs SK gaming. I am not sure yet if it was indeed; but the supposed evidence is found around 30:30 http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=0DxvZ7j_h6w# t=1830s
Feel free to take a look and make your own judgement.

Edit 3: I, personally, am interested in a rematch of the first game, and should TSM win, the third match. I am not personally asking for a remake of the entire 3 game set. Thank you for your support.

Edit 4: TPA has won out against AZF in the finals in a very exciting match. At least they didn't go on to win one million thankfully.


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u h O

Senior Member

10-10-2012

So.. Dyrus looking at the minimap and chaosx breaking the rules of looking forward isn't considered cheating because they lost. Okay.


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Zilveren

Senior Member

10-10-2012

Edit: Riot's official statement on it states that TSM's looking had 0 gameplay advantage; while AZF's had an impact on gameplay.


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Leib Olmai

Senior Member

10-10-2012

Considering that TSM got stomped and the "cheat" didn't actually affected the game....


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Claudialicious

Senior Member

10-10-2012

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Originally Posted by u h O View Post
So.. Dyrus looking at the minimap and chaosx breaking the rules of looking forward isn't considered cheating because they lost. Okay.
They all want TSM to win by disqualify AZF, but forgetting that AZF win because they actually outplayed TSM


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Ogaflow

Senior Member

10-10-2012

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Originally Posted by Dakz View Post
Read riot's official statement on it.
I think you should take your own advice..... verdict is in bro, not dq of frost and no rematch.


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BestPlayerEver

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10-10-2012

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Originally Posted by u h O View Post
So.. Dyrus looking at the minimap and chaosx breaking the rules of looking forward isn't considered cheating because they lost. Okay.
It's already been confirmed Dyrus looking back wasn't cheating since the game was already decided to be remade. Thanks for making yourself look retarded.


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tangosmango

Senior Member

10-10-2012

doesn't matter if the cheat affected the game or not

fact of the matter is HE cheated or attempted to get an unfair adv.

a player tries to exploit an unfair adv. in real sport, they'd be subject to action, LOSS OR NOT.

and not just a slap on the wrist warning


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deepbluereason

Senior Member

10-10-2012

Yes, AF cheating in one instance explains TSM getting dominated every second of both games.

But go ahead and have them replay the match for all I care. You could have AF blindfolded and the outcome would still be the same.


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Tekshi

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10-10-2012

They refunded all the tickets for the screw up on saturday and are hosting an extra day which'll cost thousands of dollars in profit loss.


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