@Riot All Urgot Nerfs are immediately undone

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ALLIIAN

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10-09-2012

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Originally Posted by Twigqt View Post
picking a champion shouldn't win your lane.
Have you played Urgot? Honestly?
His E is a complete ***** to hit at max range, and his ult is very similar to Singed's fling (aka, you can really **** it up......)
These nerfs made it even harder to play him, because he already is an squishy AD caster (early) with a slow for an escape (Gap closers OP) that gets pooped on when somebody builds armor (Think talon bad)


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AngryMilk7

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10-09-2012

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Originally Posted by Felaedor View Post
Urgot was only nerfed because the professionals became so obsessed with sending a support everywhere with their Ranged AD that they didn't counterplay the Urgot for MANY tournaments in a row.

Urgot + Support ****s on Ranged AD + Support. He ****s on it so much so that when M5 gave him an early blue buff and allowed him to solo lane, he still won.

Malphite (for example)+ Support ****s on Urgot + Support, and there are multiple Ranged ADs who are more than capable of solo laning.

Because the so-called "pros" were so afraid to switch what they were doing, this second level of counterplay never saw any action, and it's why M5 has dominated the Western LAN scene. They've proven themselves capable of second level counterplay. No one else has.

It's why the Eastern teams are starting to poop on the West as well. Level 1 Blue Buff Yorick in a top/bottom lane switch is able to MATCH CS and hold the 2v1 lane off his tower while the Western top gets zoned by the 2v1 lane and opens up a roam when the tower falls.

Basically this. The pros know that if something is getting "too strong" Riot will nerf it. Instead of trying to discover a way around it, they call OP and wait for Riot nerfs.


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ALLIIAN

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Originally Posted by AngryMilk7 View Post
Basically this. The pros know that if something is getting "too strong" Riot will nerf it. Instead of trying to discover a way around it, they call OP and wait for Riot nerfs.
LoL
Lets look at where this has happened before
-Malphite
-Rumble (kinda, he just got bugfixed)
-Talon (really, any assassin, though Talon had absolutely no mana issues, which was really wierd) (on second thought, pros dont care about assassins, but GD does)
-Any new champ (except Syndra and Rengar.....rengar is going to get nerf ****ed up the ass)


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Predakhan

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10-09-2012

Agree completely. It seems riot has forgotten why some of these champs were made originally. They were supposed to be counters but when they counter they get nerfed? How does that make sense.


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ALLIIAN

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Originally Posted by Predakhan View Post
Agree completely. It seems riot has forgotten why some of these champs were made originally. They were supposed to be counters but when they counter they get nerfed? How does that make sense.
It doesn't
LoL


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byobsoad2

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10-09-2012

bump for more variety in games


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ALLIIAN

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10-09-2012

Damn, this thread died fast
Any Urgot players want to complain with me?


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Emailsúpport

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10-09-2012

Good post, really sad that Riot had to trash down on him so hard.
If Riot want to change the meta, make something that counters the support ad bot lane.


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ALLIIAN

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10-09-2012

"Only I shall remain"


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Prismatic

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10-09-2012

Nobody seems to understand; Dodge grenade - Win tradeoff. Simple counterplay, but instead Riot nerfs his range so lower elo and higher elo dont need to counterplay for the meta.

Yeah that's just awesome.