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MTaur

Senior Member

10-07-2012

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Originally Posted by IronStylus View Post
Soraka, sorry, I have to disagree with you there. I think she's an elegant alternative to that abomination on hooves we had walking around.
It really depends on what you're looking at. There's production values, and then there's the topic of this thread. I don't think anyone thinks that the production values have gone down, as measured just by general art technique and textures and colors and polygons go.

Old Soraka: Splash art looks rushed. 45-year-old look. Spine kind of twisty, but mostly it looks like an error than an intentional Marvel Comics spine porn sort of thing. Weird sideboob thing going on... but the art quality and generally wonkiness of the whole thing prevents this from being all that sexy somehow.

In-game model looks like a Final Fantasy VII character with slightly more polygons. Oversized hands, etc.

New Soraka: Splash art has better production values, but has an inhuman bend in the spine that looks downright painful. Clearly supposed to be sexy in a comic bookish sort of way. Her apparent age range has gone from matronly to better-check-her-ID-before-sleeping-with. Splash art is just plain disappointing in these respects.

In-game model is pretty much better all around. She looks slightly older than her splash art, too. I still think that bringing down her apparent age to the same range as every other adult human female in the game was a move away from diversity, and a cave in to the gravity of sexy female champion model design.


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Dioxinis

Member

10-07-2012

Can i please make a point OP about Ab plate

for every complaint about boob plate there is a counter complaint about abplates

Im just saying look at garen and jarven and pantheon(off the top of my head) they have abplate


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Zatir

Senior Member

10-07-2012

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The unfortunate part is that "egotistical female" is too-often translated as "total *****." There isn't a lost-in-translation for male egoism.
Not in touch with the homosexual scene, I see.


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Shaella

Senior Member

10-07-2012

where's the mecha eggman


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SirSteed

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10-07-2012

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It wouldn't be hard to do.
the concept isn't exactly new, but its implementation, i can't see the you guys all banding together over a champion that "could" potentially have one of the smallest playerbases since it is very niche in who and what player would play it, this is different from a monstergirl like cassiopeia or anivia, it would be a full on void creature like kog, maybe a design like butterfree, but if you guys were to do this the design would be distinctively humanoid, like the queen of blades


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Adumbro Deus

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10-07-2012

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It is okay if it parallels Trynd in the lack of coverage, it's just that her body type and lack of bulkiness and muscle definition doesn't really sell it.
Honestly, that's the real complaint with sejuani, her body type sort of clashes with the rest of the savage impression making her seem rather incohesive in terms of visual design.


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Cryswar

Senior Member

10-07-2012

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The unfortunate part is that "egotistical female" is too-often translated as "total *****." There isn't a lost-in-translation for male egoism.
The amount of blatant sexism in your comment is truly astounding. Are you actually that clueless and desperately focused on your crusade that you are blind to the sheer stupidity you are spewing?


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Shaella

Senior Member

10-07-2012

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The amount of blatant sexism in your comment is truly astounding. Are you actually that clueless and desperately focused on your crusade that you are blind to the sheer stupidity you are spewing?
most people don't


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IronStylus

Sr. Concept Artist

10-07-2012
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Originally Posted by chumbler View Post
I should clarify regarding Sejuani. In that post I was trying to specifically refer to her dark rider skin. It gives the impression that she's in full armor from the splash art, but in reality she's wearing the same bikini, but with some plate instead of just leather. I like the look of heavy armor, and tend to go for heavy armor classes in MMOs for that reason, so I was disappointed when I found out she doesn't really have armor at all in that skin. I've realized that I've been too harsh on the default Sejuani art. It is okay if it parallels Trynd in the lack of coverage, it's just that her body type and lack of bulkiness and muscle definition doesn't really sell it. Apart from that my only major issue with her design is that her visual design and gameplay design don't match at all, but that's a communication issue, not anyone's particular fault.

I'll never stop getting on your case any time heels pop up on a female champion not named Eve, though. Because that ****'s just dumb.

Now get some sleep.
We actually had a ridiculously heavy armored version of the Dark Rider Sejuani, it was epic. I however was working on other stuff when that was getting worked on and somehow we ended up stripping off tons of armor. I have no idea why.

You can be harsh on the base Sejuani. I am! I've talked a whole lot about how I like it's concept but not it's context. Chick on giant pig in leather bikini? Cool, she must be from a wasteland where cow remnants are scant and ridable pigs prevelant. Chick on giant pig in leather bikini from the tundra? *record scratch* Yeah, I have a problem now. We did a cool concept and a cool character, but we needed to tie those together better and even push Sejuani's body type more barbaric. Hind-sight is 20/20 though. (Also I was pretty new then)

You'll never see heels on a female that I design, I cannot vouch for the rest of the team, though. There may be heels incoming, please don't hurt me!


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WhattayaBrian

Engineer

10-07-2012
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We need a champ like this !
She could be a great tank :P
Passive: When given 3 bucks, kills all enemies on screen.