NA is a joke in E-sports

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Crossf1re

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10-04-2012

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You sure about that? USA beat them in gold silver and bronze medals this year and had the most overall medals for like the last four olympics.
You realize they came in 2nd right...now compare that result to their previous result. Wait until the next Olympics where they pretty much crush everyone.


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Insomnia1234o00o

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10-04-2012

Well, you guys still have Marvel vs Capcom3 and Mortal Kombat 9. Both of these games are considered joke games in Japanese arcade FG scene though.


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elmcninja

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10-04-2012

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Ok except China was pretty much dominating in the Olympics. So...you're wrong
Didn't we win like 20 more medals than them in the Olympics total?
And like 10 more golds?
Also FPS and some fighting games.
Also chess.
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Originally Posted by Crossf1re View Post
You realize they came in 2nd right...now compare that result to their previous result. Wait until the next Olympics where they pretty much crush everyone.
The previous result was winter olympics, for which they never put up many atheletes. If you want to compare 2008 to 2012 (the last two summer games), the US has improved more than they have, at least as far as golds go. Both nations were down in total medal count between those two olympics...




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Katie A Ratio

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10-04-2012

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It's a cultural thing. Even people in this very thread, on the game's own forum, have ridiculed the idea of taking the game seriously.

I imagine that it will change in time, but it's not there yet.
Or, we could just fall back on encouraging future generations to, y'know... go and play outside.


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TwistedHeaven

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10-04-2012

while its true china does dominate in the olympic, it never really head to head competition with the US. they win their ping pong and gymnastics and we win our swimming and w/e we are good at.


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garrotedGargoyle

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10-04-2012

The reason why NA teams are falling behind Asian ones is simply because Asia is the hotspot for E-sports, and they're culture encourages it much more than ours does.

If you grew up in Renaissance/Baroque period, you would be a much better musician if you were born in Vienna, than if you were born somewhere else.
Location and culture plays a huge influence on your craft.

Not only that, but since Asia encourages E-sports, now they have a MUCH larger pool of professional gamer players to choose from.
E-sports is a business in Asia.
E-sports is a hobby in U.S.

And... well... Most of the NA teams, if not all of them are cocky kids with huge egos, and overall terrible attitudes and/or work ethics.
If NA team practices 6 hours a day, A korean team will practice 10 hours a day, with 2 more hours of analyzation on their practice.

I remember Locodoco talking about Azubu Frosts schedule, it was like 5 hours of solo queue, 5 hours of scrims, you had to watch all of the days replays, and if you didn't, or you were late to a scrim, etc. You had to do all of the house chores or something. If you underperform, you are able to being kicked/benched for under performance. They also aren't allowed to have girlfriend/boyfriends lol.

NA teams aren't practicing to be the best they can be, because they are making plenty of money off of streams. Being a popular streamer > being best team, because streaming is where the real money is at. (Streaming is also a MUCH more stable income)

Basically, Asian teams live and breathe their current game. While NA teams doze off playing tetris, street fighter, D3, etc. And when they do play, they usually rage at their team in solo queue or make some other stupid excuse as to why they are not owning instead of trying to improve their gameplay, or they rage at each other/troll their team in scrims.


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wigsplitta322

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10-04-2012

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You realize they came in 2nd right...now compare that result to their previous result. Wait until the next Olympics where they pretty much crush everyone.
Exactly, China came in second, to USA. In 2008 USA had more medals but China did have more gold, let's remember it was in Beijing. In 2006 China finished second to USA. In 2000 China finished third, USA was again first. I get you're anti-American but what makes you think the 2014 Olympics will be any different? And more to the point, what is your point with this thread? Not sure if you're Asian or not but I'm assuming you made this thread to feel good about yourself and your country. A lot of countries are envious of USA but what I can't understand is, unless you are someone on one of these Asian teams in the finals why does this post boost your self-esteem?


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10-04-2012

Siglemic- best SM64 speed runner


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PsionicApe

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10-04-2012

The US is still pretty good at taking 'religious freedom' and using it as a platform to draw the fire (figuratively and literally) of anyone that doesn't agree with us.


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KVG NomNoms

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10-04-2012

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I can't think of one major game where when Asian teams are participating, NA teams are considered stronger.

Of the top of my head, right now. In LoL and Starcraft 1 and 2, North America is pathetic compared to how the Asian players and teams play. It's funny though, I have to say North America was on the top of EVERYTHING, economically, technologically etc. Now they are just starting to lag behind the rest of the world...even in video games.

Also awesome meta in the games so far, really enjoying the change. Those Asian teams are incredible at adapting O.o

Downvoting? Typical
There have been several americans to become champions in sc2 tourneys. They move to korea to do it because no one cares here.