Kha'Zix

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Reynmaker

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09-19-2012

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Was hoping his kit wasn't almost a direct rip of Rengar's with Tristana's Rocket Jump lol
Rengar, rocket jump, buckshot with a dash of Jayce upgrades.


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DiscworldDeath

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09-20-2012

Irelia was designed as an assassin, and IIRC Talon more as a bruiser.

Just saying.
Also, people don't necessarily build on Dominion the same way. "Alone" seems to also include "away from minions", so catching someone in jungle/on neutral point might be good.


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Phourc

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09-20-2012

^ How riot defines 'alone' is going to be a big chunk of whether or not this guy is viable xP


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09-20-2012

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^ How riot defines 'alone' is going to be a big chunk of whether or not this guy is viable xP
i think he'd be viable anyways, if his jump is anything like tristana's jump but less Buggy then he has a spot here, also i dont think isolating rengar could work in Dominion but you have other 3 path options anyways. personally the first thing i think his players would upgrade on Dom is his ultimate.


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lbgsloan

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09-20-2012

Morello's kind of full of **** there. There's really no denying that Fiora is an obvious 6300 replacement for AD Yi, Zyra is a replacement for Heimer, Sejuani was a (failed) attempt to replace Amumu, and Syndra was a (badly failed) replacement for Orianna. Subtle differences don't matter when champion roles and kits overlap but one kit is just flat out better overall.

Now maybe this guy will be more like Nocturne and less like a derp, but there's still really no justification for giving him nearly the same kit as Rengar + rocket jump instead of bola as a superior gap closer. One will simply be better than the other, and the other will never get used ever again in serious play because they have the exact same role and playstyle. People who bought the older releases with cash will get pissed off at your business practices sooner or later.


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konfetarius

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09-20-2012

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IIRC Talon more as a bruiser.

Just saying.
wut


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Nyx87

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09-20-2012

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Morello's kind of full of **** there. There's really no denying that Fiora is an obvious 6300 replacement for AD Yi, Zyra is a replacement for Heimer, Sejuani was a (failed) attempt to replace Amumu, and Syndra was a (badly failed) replacement for Orianna. Subtle differences don't matter when champion roles and kits overlap but one kit is just flat out better overall.
On paper, these champs seem to replace each other, but they don't. If they are the same role, their kit will have some overlap, yes but even with champs as closely designed as Yi/Fiora there are still instances in which i would pick one over the other depending on what the team needed due to those "subtle" differences. Need a melee carry that goes bonkers? Yi. Need to shred MR/ARmor and a blind/stun? Heim.

After a game is out for a while, you will always see rehashed abilities, but the way and order those abilities are executed and why changes what team comp you would want them in.


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Orphane

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09-20-2012

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Morello's kind of full of **** there. There's really no denying that Fiora is an obvious 6300 replacement for AD Yi, Zyra is a replacement for Heimer, Sejuani was a (failed) attempt to replace Amumu, and Syndra was a (badly failed) replacement for Orianna. Subtle differences don't matter when champion roles and kits overlap but one kit is just flat out better overall.
On the whole these are really poor examples