Sion AP Issues.

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Reathien

Senior Member

01-30-2012

Anyone else actually taken a good look at sions abilitys?
0.9 Ratio....every 100 ap grants a 90 bonus,
Now, lets also look at something else, his abilitys
Cryptic Gaze, Ranged STUN that deals 300 dmg at max rank, +90% of ap
Deaths Caress, 300 heal absoarbtion shield, +90% of ap,
Tad high doncha think? On..on a shield....an ABSOARBTION EFFECT
makes ya wonder why mordes shield got nerfed but his didnt ehh? Seeing as Mordes shield is a Keystone to the champion...but WAIT!
After 4 sec, Sion can DETONATE the shield! Dealing the absoarbtion amount, AS DAMAGE!
idk about you guys, but it any other mage came with a shield or stun as hard with thoise ratios, i'd be screaming at riot bloody murder....like come on, YES he may not be a SOLE mage, but he has much higher ratios and base dmg than most other mages, + a Lifesteal/AS Steroid and an AD steroid.....imo he needs a REAL nerf, put him down a few notches,
Imo, reduce the base dmg/health absorb of his abilitys, or nerf the ratio furthe,r with a small base dmg hike, say .5 ratio with a 30 base, or 200 base with current ratios.


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Hackulator

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01-30-2012

troll post is troll


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ImCoolerOnline

Senior Member

01-31-2012

This guy is telling it straight but no one will change anything. What they really need to do is make Sion's shield larger based on the size of his ABSOARBTION EFFECT rate. So like if he had 400 AP the shield should be giganticly huge for the ABSOARBTION EFFECT to show better.


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IceGaia

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01-31-2012

Honestly, in my opinion, some things get balanced out by the fact that Sion has no range except for his stun. He's no ordinary mage. He's not an AP caster. With enough CC and focus on Sion, he will be brought down by an at least competent team.

He isn't an invincible champion just because of his ratios and lifesteal/atk-speed boost. Lettuce be real. His base attack speed is slower than most melee champions, and his stuns and shield don't do a whole lot of damage since the player is forced into deciding AD or AP for Sion. If you go exclusively AP, his utility as a melee is drastically reduced, and he basically becomes a nuker to run in and blow up the enemy during a team fight.


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Trame

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01-31-2012

Quote:
Originally Posted by ImCoolerOnline View Post
This guy is telling it straight but no one will change anything. What they really need to do is make Sion's shield larger based on the size of his ABSOARBTION EFFECT rate. So like if he had 400 AP the shield should be giganticly huge for the ABSOARBTION EFFECT to show better.
@ 700 AP the shield should have a radius 1/3rd the length of the map & show up through fog of war


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18X Jake

Senior Member

01-31-2012

It should be like blitzcrank with 10k mana, your entire bar goes gray.


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NoNamezzz

Junior Member

03-30-2012

1.5 secs of stun is way too long for a melee champ cuz he might actually get close enough to hit you, and shield shouldn't do any dmg... its OP ....ZOMG.

Just kidding, learn to kite or some hp and get mercs.... and maybe ignite if you go against AD sion.


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sethyd

Senior Member

03-30-2012

Veigar has potential for infinite AP, his AoE scales better than Sion's, has a massive AoE stun that stuns for 2.5 seconds, his Q can do 600+ damage on a 4~ second cooldown, his ultimate can 1-shot AP carries and do 1000+ damage to any other champion, and has far better farming capability than Sion.

AP Sion has two abilities that actually do damage for him. One's AoE and one's a stun, both having an 8~ second cooldown.

...Why do people build AP Sion again?


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Haen

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03-30-2012

The fact that some people say AP Sion is OP and others say hes trash makes me think hes actually fairly balanced...

I play him a bit. Hes a pubstomper. Against people who don't know how to deal with him, he will dominate you.


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WayneKingftw

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03-30-2012

we ned reds in hear