@Morello/Xypherous: Can we get an update on the stealth remake please?

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FingeredDander

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07-13-2011

So what happens when, say, i'm playing Twitch and i run into an enemy Eve? The Eve can see me? And I her? Huh...


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Caladh

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07-13-2011

Seriously? A shield as an assassin's ultimate skill? You've got to be kidding...
Considering Eve's skillset, so it will be like

Passive: no info
Q: longer range version of hate spike that proritizes enemy champions
W: perma stealth passive, bush check active (active is a subject to change)
E: Ravage, gap closer+stun
R: short duration shield

or am I mistaken?
And considering ravage, is the armor/m res reduction component removed?

@FingeredDander
You get to see eachother as soon as you get into your vision range. That's assuming there're no vision wards or enemy champions around. Also, considering they mentioned making Eve's detection range smaller than Twitch's, it's likely Eve would notice Twitch before he sees her.


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StoneColdSteve

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07-13-2011

on the subject of oracles/ward sweeping:

how about a new kind of ward? one that is "super invisible" and not revealable by anything, including oracles, lee sin, etc.

maybe make it cost like a pink ward or even a bit more. then if your wards are being swept, you have an option for maintaining sight control, but there is a drawback in cost, so oracles aren't just worthless as they force you to buy the new ward if you want vision.


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BionicSoup

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07-13-2011

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Originally Posted by Caladh View Post
Seriously? A shield as an assassin's ultimate skill? You've got to be kidding...
Considering Eve's skillset, so it will be like

Passive: no info
Q: longer range version of hate spike that proritizes enemy champions
W: perma stealth passive, bush check active (active is a subject to change)
E: Ravage, gap closer+stun
R: short duration shield

or am I mistaken?
And considering ravage, is the armor/m res reduction component removed?
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From what I read, the short duration shield is PART of her Ult. So I'm assuming it's not the ONLY thing her ult gives her.


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Prince of Kimchi

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07-13-2011

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Originally Posted by SoBeNirvana View Post
Why? It sounds like these characters are going to be even more effective if you can play them well.
The subtle humor, you missed it.


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SoBeNirvana

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07-13-2011

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Originally Posted by Caladh View Post
Seriously? A shield as an assassin's ultimate skill? You've got to be kidding...
Considering Eve's skillset, so it will be like

Passive: no info
Q: longer range version of hate spike that proritizes enemy champions
W: perma stealth passive, bush check active (active is a subject to change)
E: Ravage, gap closer+stun
R: short duration shield

or am I mistaken?
And considering ravage, is the armor/m res reduction component removed?
Her Ultimate will mostly be the same, just a shield in place of a heal.

Eve's kit sounds like this:

Q: Hate Spike - Longer range, prioritizes Champions
W: Perma Stealth Passive, damaging mid-range harass nuke active that can check brush.
E: Gap closer+stun
R: Massive attack and movespeed buff + shield to escape.
Passive: ???


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undercover sbz

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07-13-2011

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Originally Posted by Xypherous View Post
Stealth as an escape mechanic will suffer quite a bit, but if Evelynn can open up the gap (even temporarily) to her vision radius units, she'll just disappear to the enemy.
I foresee Shurelya's Reverie as a core item for Evelynn post-rework now


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IS143752172bafe79dd4f30

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07-13-2011

Well, sometimes I play with Twitch (well, very rarely, but I like Twitch so.. ). So can his Passive get a bit buffed, okay that Xyph said that its 360 true dmg at lvl 18 at 6 stack, but its still ridiclious that because everyone flash out from everywhere u can't even stack your poison early game cuz "OMG twitch from nowhere *flash* " and your are lucky if u can even shoot the enemy once not like stacking the posion to 6. Also twitch is ******edly slow, slower than "The Slow" itself, and thus very paper. Ahh nevermind nobody will read this..


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Skrain

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07-13-2011

Lawl Wat? Remove oracles and make them perma invisi because oracles broke them?


Is it just me or is this ******ed? Remove oracles yeah because they work. Oracles broke stealth champs because that was the items **** job.


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Caladh

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07-13-2011

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Originally Posted by SoBeNirvana View Post
Her Ultimate will mostly be the same, just a shield in place of a heal.

Eve's kit sounds like this:

Q: Hate Spike - Longer range, prioritizes Champions
W: Perma Stealth Passive, damaging mid-range harass nuke active that can check brush.
E: Gap closer+stun
R: Massive attack and movespeed buff + shield to escape.
Passive: ???
They said they want to make the stealth active a utility ability, so doubt it will do damage, especially since it's supposed to be an instant cast+ranged, so if it was to deal damage, it would be an undodgeable aoe nuke (doubt they want her to be able to bush check often, so probably high cooldown and high damage).
As for ultimate, I bet they won't be giving her any movement speed on it, since it would destroy the whole idea of the stealth update, because again, she'd rush to you with ultimate close enough to use ravage to get right next to you and then instantly stun. In the right hands, same effect as currently against a player with oracle.