Regarding 7/17 Varus PBE Change

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Qelwa

Senior Member

07-19-2014

Not that I'm complaining, but could someone offer context as to why Varus' ult CD was changed?

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Varus
Chain of Corruption ( R ) cooldown decreased to 110/90/70 from 120/105/90
Was it to make him on par with other ADCs in terms of ult cooldown?


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Lulu Our Goddess

Senior Member

07-19-2014

Probably


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Meddler

Lead Champion Designer

07-19-2014
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Couple of thoughts behind the change we're testing:

1. As a non mobile ADC giving Varus a bit more safety/control via his ult being up more reliably's an appropriate place to offer a bit of power.

2. Following on from that one of the prime reasons to pick Varus in a team comp is if you want crowd control from your marksman slot (with a focus on team disruption, and greater reliability as a counterinitiate, in contrast to Ashe's strength as an initiator). Amplifying that strength's therefore fits well with our goals of increasing clear strengths and weaknesses for champions to create further distinctions between them.


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doublelift fg

Senior Member

07-19-2014

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Originally Posted by Meddler View Post
Couple of thoughts behind the change we're testing:

1. As a non mobile ADC giving Varus a bit more safety/control via his ult being up more reliably's an appropriate place to offer a bit of power.

2. Following on from that one of the prime reasons to pick Varus in a team comp is if you want crowd control from your marksman slot (with a focus on team disruption, and greater reliability as a counterinitiate, in contrast to Ashe's strength as an initiator). Amplifying that strength's therefore fits well with our goals of increasing clear strengths and weaknesses for champions to create further distinctions between them.
then why don't you buff his slow? it have 18 seconds cd, and only 20-36% slow


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BFNASmurf

Senior Member

07-19-2014

@Meddler, since you're here...

Do you think Ashe actually could be buffed to a top-tier ADC pick, without disrupting the game, due to her permaslows? I mean she was the reason why Irelia/Xin/etc were made, to counter... Pretty much her, and she ended up making problems due to a ranged permaslow.

However, times have changed and arguably permaslows aren't as strong as they used to be. Still, they can be highly problematic for the game and make a lot of Champs suffer as well.

I'm curious if you think she could be buffed to that stage without impacting the game too powerfully in a negative fashion, and how you would do it.


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Lulu Our Goddess

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07-19-2014

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then why don't you buff his slow? it had 18 seconds cd, and only 20-36% slow
well his ult being lower cd now kinda makes it more useful to use on fights dont you think


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guiltui

Member

07-19-2014

Give him his old MS back


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Meddler

Lead Champion Designer

07-19-2014
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Originally Posted by doublelift fg View Post
then why don't you buff his slow? it had 18 seconds cd, and only 20-36% slow
No shortage of champs with slows. As above we're seeing if there's mileage in buffing something more distinct. On top of that a slow's fairly or completely ineffective against a fair number of diving champs, in contrast to a root.


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B00tyWarriorr

Senior Member

07-19-2014

Doesn't matter, still will be bad. His scaling is pretty awful and in this hyper carry meta where you have Kog 3 shotting people endgame, Varus just doesn't have a place.


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Lulu Our Goddess

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07-19-2014

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No shortage of champs with slows. As above we're seeing if there's mileage in buffing something more distinct. On top of that a slow's fairly or completely ineffective against a fair number of diving champs, in contrast to a root.
One thing I'd like to know if the hitbox could be increased a little because I swear varus ult feels like it's far more difficult to hit than other skillshots.