@Riot, its time for the faceless mods to stop.

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Tamat

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05-13-2014
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Closing threads: Moderator posts at the end of a thread to briefly explain why before they close it.
Personally speaking, I don't think forums with that heavy a moderation footprint can breed awesome discussions. You could argue that our current methods doesn't either, but I feel like it makes more sense for a moderation footprint to be seen by the offender only.

Can you imagine what the forums would look like if we took a more aggressive approach and had moderators post comments whenever we touched something? I don't think that would be better.


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Quinn PossibIe

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05-13-2014

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Currently, the moderators we use have strict instructions to only touch the worst of the worst in the official forums. Their purpose is to rid these forums of the content that we don't want living in the forums. Examples of this this is porn, malicious software, keyloggers, spam, racism, posts about Teemo, you get the point.
But I got banned for nothing of that D:


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Furi Kuri II

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05-13-2014

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But I got banned for nothing of that D:
I got banned for none of those either. It was one of those days when the mods were closing threads left and right.


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Bad Slip Ons

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05-13-2014

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Personally speaking, I don't think forums with that heavy a moderation footprint can breed awesome discussions. You could argue that our current methods doesn't either, but I feel like it makes more sense for a moderation footprint to be seen by the offender only.

Can you imagine what the forums would look like if we took a more aggressive approach and had moderators post comments whenever we touched something? I don't think that would be better.
Moderation with no footprint can breed zero discussion, as there's literally no chance of interaction, or even understanding of why threads are closed or accounts are banned.

And yes, I can easily imagine what the forums would look like. You yourself said that the moderators occasionally overstep their bounds. I'm ok with that, no system will ever be perfect. But I feel that if they were forced to actually type out why they were banning people, not only would it help the forum to better understand what is going on, but it would also help the moderators in keeping themselves in check.


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05-13-2014

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Personally speaking, I don't think forums with that heavy a moderation footprint can breed awesome discussions. You could argue that our current methods doesn't either, but I feel like it makes more sense for a moderation footprint to be seen by the offender only.

Can you imagine what the forums would look like if we took a more aggressive approach and had moderators post comments whenever we touched something? I don't think that would be better.
It's definitely way better than having your thread closed for an unclear reason.

We've had a ton of threads here fostering huge discussions with tons of participation get closed for seemingly nothing, having someone note the reason would be infinitely helpful.

You wouldn't even need to do it on every thread, just threads where people might not understand why they're being closed or moved.


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TrueObjectivity

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05-13-2014

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Personally speaking, I don't think forums with that heavy a moderation footprint can breed awesome discussions. You could argue that our current methods doesn't either, but I feel like it makes more sense for a moderation footprint to be seen by the offender only.

Can you imagine what the forums would look like if we took a more aggressive approach and had moderators post comments whenever we touched something? I don't think that would be better.
I played RuneScape for a long time and that's how their forums have always worked. It helps to set a clear line for what is and what is not okay and puts a bit more of a face to the moderators. It also allows the community to get better in tune with the rules and recognize when they as a whole would like something changed. It works well imo. If you ban a user, sure keep the reasons personal, but I think everyone in GD would be happier if reasons were given to explain why a publicly viewable post or thread is closed/deleted.

Please upvote me if you would like mods to post saying why they did it whenever they close a gd thread or remove a post from one, and please downvote me if you think that would be worse than how it is now.


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Io Reign

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05-13-2014

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Can you imagine what the forums would look like if we took a more aggressive approach and had moderators post comments whenever we touched something? I don't think that would be better.
It's honestly far better than hundreds of players getting banned for doing literally nothing, as is a common occurrence in here. Saying mods "go ham" occasionally is the understatement of the century. Mods should be responsible for the stupid and unwarranted bans they give out.


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DarkvolcanReborn

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05-13-2014

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If you're interested in this topic, please head over and contribute!
no thanks


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Pudii Pudii

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05-13-2014

I feel like every online game I've ever played has had corrupt moderators.
There's a lot of hate, spam, and other non-sense in most forums and the average person can only put up with so much of it before deciding they want to take things into their own hands and "fight" for justice and start banning the kids. It starts out with good with intentions but always goes overboard at some point.

I wish I still had the screenshots from Basil Market Forums and Trickster Online Forums where the moderators were outright caught saying they were going to ban people without warning and they didn't really care if it was fair or not.

There's always a hand full of good moderators but it's the bad ones that always slip through the cracks and are never caught by the other mods.


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DarkvolcanReborn

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05-13-2014

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I'd rather do this in private, but since you're curious, I'll make it clear.

You posted this..... [WARNING: Racist comments]

I think you were attempting to quote someone from a game you played in, but you failed to make that obvious, and were justly penalized. In the future we'll definitely let you know why we take action against your content, but it might work better if you just avoid posting **** like that.
holy **** hook me up with a special key for the private forums and its sub sections