On MMR Boosting and the 2014 Season

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poporoporopoporo

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01-14-2014

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Originally Posted by o Jack Noir View Post
Can you explain to me how this happens with such a finally tuned, well oiled machine that is the ranking system?
because as usual, riot is full of shit. it isn't rocket science.


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Spreek

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01-14-2014

These bans are a step in the right direction.

However, have you considered approaching this issue from the opposite direction and aiming to reduce the demand for boosting?

If the ranked system was less arcane and frustrating, players might not feel like they need to pay $100 for someone to raise their accounts rating.


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TsKen

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01-14-2014

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Hasn't he been in a slump ever since he started duoing with that one chick?

And all the "smurfing" makes him feed in Diamond games. Lol
still

he gets free accounts from people

or he goes on other peoples accounts

yet he is part of riot and gets no banned

riot pls no special treatment.


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SZEFEN

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01-14-2014

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The Leagues system has been carefully tuned so that players are placed in a proper tier with others at a similar skill level.

The Leagues system has been carefully tuned so that players are placed in a proper tier with others at a similar skill level.

Are you sure about that? Are you REALLY sure about that?
Let me share a little history of me and my friends smurfing. I know a semi pro Challenger adc who won 9 out of 10 of his placement games in his smurf. He was placed in bronze 1.

I know a diamond 1 jungle main who won 8/10 of his placement games. He was placed in silver 5.
When I started S3 for ranked I won 8/10 of my placement games. I was placed into silver 5.
My friend won 4/10 of his games. No joke. 4 out of 10. He got silver 3. Hes been demoted to silver 5 and stayed there ever.
Can you explain to me how this happens with such a finally tuned, well oiled machine that is the ranking system?
Placements are 10 games and are in no way supposed to be exact, which is why when you only have 10 ranked games your MMR fluxuates so heavily.


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Koi Nami Only

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01-14-2014

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Originally Posted by i486 View Post
How could you prove if those 19 teams in challenger / diamond were trading wins? It could so happen that they lost / won every other game.
If you look at some of the match histories on some of the teams, you'll see pretty stupid stats like 0/2/0 and 38 cs on a non-support player or other silly things. It usually doesn't look like your typical "we got stomped" kind of games. Like even if you got camped all game, there's no way you'll have < 50 cs in a 38min game unless you're support.


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Riot Rhojin

Player Behavior Specialist

01-14-2014
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Originally Posted by Sty13z View Post
So just to be clear, if I hypothetically had a Challenger Tier Friend and I was Bronze V he could carry me 'til the cows come home and it would not be considered boosting (assuming we are playing on our own respective accounts the entire time)?

No loaded question intended, honest question intended to clarify.
While others may consider it to be a "scumbag" move, it would be allowed, as long as both of your were playing on your own accounts. Our matchmaking system takes both your rankings into consideration and the larger the difference in skill, the more weighted a match can become(it's not completely stacked, but it does take this into consideration). So queuing with someone close to you in skill and rank almost always ensures a more fair and even match.


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TouchFluffyTail

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01-14-2014

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Placements are 10 games and are in no way supposed to be exact, which is why when you only have 10 ranked games your MMR fluctuate so heavily.
Oh ok, so the system cant handle placement games. Boy that sure is consistent with what they tell us when they post things about the system. So then can someone explain how a silver 4 player can show up in my ranked games? Hes not duoing with anyone. His match history shows hes not a smurf "something along the lines of 200 ranked played....lot of losses". So how does he get here? Sometimes I get paired with STUPIDLY high elo. No joke! Im not diamond material yet. Im not at tha skill level. So its a little inconvenient when everyone on the other team is diamond 4-5 vs my team of plat 5-2. How does this happen with this system thats again: "carefully tuned" to put players in the proper games.

EDIT: Oh and this isint a "one time thing" either. It happens more than it should. Im not saying OMG ITS EVERY OTHER GAME. But it happens enough for me to count it when it does. Above all, it SHOULD NOT happen to begin with is what im getting at.


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Just Mid

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01-14-2014

If I've had a friend or two come over and play on their account with my client, am I dead? Cause I'm always scared to let my friends play League on my client since I'm almost Platinum and they're Bronze/Silver.


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Orphane

Senior Member

01-14-2014

If they played on their account and not yours while on your computer/client, you should be fine if I'm reading these Red responses correctly. The issue begins when someone who isn't you plays on your account.


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Light deus

Senior Member

01-14-2014

wait so you can go on your friends account, as long as you play normals :/?