Lich Bane Crit ?

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Peturbado

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11-24-2010

Garen skills can crit but do not double dmg added by the skill, just the part coming from AD. Tested it a couple of months ago.


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11-24-2010

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Originally Posted by DeadXera View Post
wait... Justice can crit???
exactly his point. nobody builds garen to crit.
but dps soraka pwns hard vs. bots.


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Rallos

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11-26-2010

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Originally Posted by Xypherous View Post
This is correct: Lichbane, Sheen and Trinity Force is applied after the critical modifier.
However, for champion abilities that can critical strike such as: Parley and Garen's Justice... their bonus damage is added *before* the critical modifier...
...except that no one builds critical strike on Garen, so who cares? XD
Which means that Sheen is probably the best possible buy for GP Parley wise.

57Dmg to Parley & 250mana & 25AP at lvl1 for 1260G
108Dmg to Parley & 250mana & 25AP at lvl18 for 1260G

So you'll do 108(basic)+150+108(sheen) =366x 2 .... nice


This even makes AP Plank godly since you can get a LOT more of AP than AD...


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Xypherous

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11-26-2010
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Ah. Whoops. Looks like I was unclear in my post.

I meant that the bonus damage from the skill itself will crit not that Sheen's bonus damage will crit with those skills.

Sorry for the misunderstanding.


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11-27-2010

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Originally Posted by Xypherous View Post

...except that no one builds critical strike on Garen, so who cares? XD
sure...except when hes on free champions week. i see 3-5 crit builds on garen


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JayceJa

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11-27-2010

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Originally Posted by Xypherous View Post
Ah. Whoops. Looks like I was unclear in my post.

I meant that the bonus damage from the skill itself will crit not that Sheen's bonus damage will crit with those skills.

Sorry for the misunderstanding.
which is unfortunate, or lichs bane AP gangplank would screw things over, i tested that a while back


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Lord Timber

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11-27-2010

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Originally Posted by ASHISHDUH View Post
I think the wording on Lich Bane and Trinity Force should be changed, it makes it sound like your attack damage actually gets increased as opposed to just adding attack damage on to the final hit. Weirdly enough, Sheen's wording is completely clear lol.
Yeah. The description confused me all to hell, too. But now that it's been made clear for me, I won't be so skeptical about choosing those items. :P


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TheSnowFox

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11-28-2010

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Originally Posted by Rallos View Post
Which means that Sheen is probably the best possible buy for GP Parley wise.

57Dmg to Parley & 250mana & 25AP at lvl1 for 1260G
108Dmg to Parley & 250mana & 25AP at lvl18 for 1260G

So you'll do 108(basic)+150+108(sheen) =366x 2 .... nice


This even makes AP Plank godly since you can get a LOT more of AP than AD...
If you fix his ult to have guaranteed hits and give it a useful AP ratio then I will listen to that argument. But for the present, get the fella a phantom dancer, an infinity, and a ghostblade and you'll do fine. Also in order to proc the bonus damage on parley with sheen/infinity/lichbane you have to first cast a spell. Which is not parley. He's got pretty high cd on all his other spells. Better to build lots of ad and crit chance then spam parley as applicable.


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Tenimuhou

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11-28-2010

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Originally Posted by DeadXera View Post
wait... Justice can crit???
Garen's E, not his R.


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