Introducing Team Builder

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VonBurgermeister

UX Designer

10-30-2013
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Originally Posted by Champion RockX View Post
Why is the Team Builder quee down on pbe?
Team Builder was available on PBE for a limited time over the weekend and will be available again soon.


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VonBurgermeister

UX Designer

10-30-2013
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Originally Posted by Léonhardt View Post
but what If I want to play double bruiser bot or something else with a friend?
As a captain, you can invite friends and setup a comp as you like, filling in any empty slots with solo players.


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steelblacksky

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10-30-2013

1-what provisions if any are in the system for more specialized compositions i.e. an aoe composition or a stealth comp?

does it simply devolve into desiring specific roles in any lane and then rejecting until you get champs that fulfill that specialty? it seems like in cases like these which should be somewhat common, they would wind up being a bit of a pain to arrange the team to fill the strategy. lots of turnover while trying to get there, that seems needless.


2- am i correct in that as a non-team-lead one can queue for role+position not only for oneself but for ones desired team allocation?

i.e. i can que looking for a 5 any mid, or 3top 2 bot while specifying my position and have it locate a leader looking for the same? or is this restricted to a group leader que and the rest will be semirandom shuffling through potential placements based on a smaller option subset?

3- i love the idea but sincerely believe it will need to be live to really get kinks worked out. the idea is sound but the specific implementation seems an incredibly thorny prospect. may i suggest a double ip /quemode weekend or two when it releases to live in order to encourage more people to take a shot on the potentially longer queue times and new mode uncertainties. as it stands the potential for longer waits to get in may create an entry barrier to real initial utilization and i would wager such a reward counterbalance may help.

edit: only 95 red posts when i started post. pbe download takes forever >.>


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Alpha1288

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10-30-2013

looking forward to this going live


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Faranae

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10-30-2013

I've seen quite a few concerns about how this would work with bans and ranked mode, should it ever be ported to those queues.

Here's a thought: In order to port it to draft mode, allow players to select three-four champions for the role they would like to play. Such as "Hey, I's like to play support bot, I can play as either Sona, Zyra, Lulu, or Singed". This would allow for the system to match up players by preferred role/position, allow the minimum owned champions to remain effective, and still allow each team to do bans. The matchmaking system could also be tweaked to not match teams that have too many champions in common.

* Team goes through normal Team Builder Process
* Team is placed in Draft lobby with another matched team
* Bans as normal
* Champion selection as normal, except that players can only choose from their pool of queued champions (Sona, Zyra, Lulu, or Singed, using the above example)

So the system could definitely be adapted to work for ranked mode, still allowing players to counter-pick to a degree, and virtually eliminate in-lobby role fights.


Far from perfect, but I'm sure the lovely folks at Riot could adapt it to be less brain-mess.


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MasterChiefs1174

Junior Member

10-30-2013

Great job riot! Will prevent a lot of fights in the team itself, make the game more fun and a bigger chance to win the game!


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Murkaran

Senior Member

10-30-2013

Great, I've been waiting for something like this for so long.

So annoying to join a game lobby and then people try to type out lanes as fast as possible because they think they get to play that lane if they type it out faster.


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10-30-2013

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Palmtre3

Junior Member

10-30-2013

I know myself and all of us LoL players have to thank you guys for all the hard work you do.

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Originally Posted by Lyte View Post
I just want to take a moment to thank some of the Rioters who worked on this feature:

Robbypoo, RiotComplex, statuskwoh, RiotWorldPeace, RiotTantram, davin, btab, Miss Mecha Zero, RiotLobster, stopthief, Exekias, Amazoe, Scezumin, VonBurgermeister, Ryedan, RiotNeuroCat, RiotJayway, Taurendur, RiotLulu, Drevarius, RoamingNumeral, RiotSeb, DoctahWayne, D00m0.

If you see them around the forums or a future event, make sure to give them a fist-bump!

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Update!

Frequently Asked Questions:

1) Won't this enforce the meta?
<p><span class="content-border"><a href="http://riot-web-static.s3.amazonaws.com/images/news/October_2013/TBDP/EN2.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://riot-web-static.s3.amazonaws.com/images/news/October_2013/TBDP/EN2_thumb.jpg" style="width: 640px;" /></a></span></p>
a) Here's an example of a crazy meta that was tried earlier in the day. Team Builder is all about introducing a new, cooperative Champion Select where players can agree to a strategy and team vision before entering a match. Players in Team Builder will be able to outline a strategy they are interested in playing, and the system will find teammates that share that vision. Feel like playing a double jungler strategy or want to send 5 players down the mid-lane? No problem. It might take longer to find 4 other players willing to try a crazy strategy but when you do, you'll know the entire team is bought in and you're going to have fun.

2) Will Team Builder replace other queues?
a) Team Builder is a complete re-design of Champion Select that was inspired by a lot of research on social dynamics and cooperation. Because we're going to iterate on it quite often with player feedback, we opted to create it as an independent queue first and not touch any of the existing queues. Depending on what we learn, we may adapt some or all of Team Builder into the existing queues.

3) Will I have long queue times if I want to play a popular role?
a) In our research, we were surprised that role preferences were pretty diverse. When we surveyed players and asked what their preferred role was, about 15% of players preferred playing Support, 14% of players preferred playing Jungle, and 5% of players were willing to fill any role.

We'll be keeping a very close eye on role popularity in Team Builder, but for now, it looks like there are players that are very happy to play the perceived least popular roles if there is a system like Team Builder in place to help create teams.

4) How can I play as a leader in Team Builder?
a) There are two flows in Team Builder. You can opt to be a leader of a group and define strategies for your team--this is usually the recommended path if you have a few premade friends and want to find a few strangers to fill out your team according to your desired composition.

You can also opt to be a solo player, choose a champion, role and position and ask the system to look for teams who are looking for your spec.


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zombieswat1

Junior Member

10-30-2013

Works