There is no counter to silver bolts

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Maxilimus

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10-30-2013

People complain about Vayne 3 shotting them.

Silver bolts does a flat percent of their HP, its not like that really makes a huge impact if you are being 3 shot like you claim.


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Best Lee Win NA

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10-30-2013

Don't let her get the third hit.


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Kagami

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10-30-2013

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% hp true damage

build hp? nope
build armor? nope
use attack speed slow? -> cleanse/scimitar -> nope
Zileas hinted it might finally change today, just saying:
http://forums.na.leagueoflegends.com...6#post42612966

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It's true, silver bolts do percent true damage, which renders ineffective armor items, health items, and play balance.

But seriously, this is a work in progress. We are continually improving this stuff, and some of the systemic changes in the works for s4 will help as well in subtle ways -- a lot of the worst experiences in the game are when a team snowballs too quickly, or full control of the map is established too easily. This stuff amplifies all sorts of less ideal situations into really bad ones.
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Well he should. Because silver bolts. And especially annoying if it's the heartseeker Vayne skin.


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Maxilimus

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10-30-2013

Its funny how people think Kog is so bad right now when they complain about silver bolts

Magic resist currently is at one of the hardest it has ever been to stack, and his bio-arcane barrage does TONS more than silver bolts, with the longest non-twitch range in the game.


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It's worth pointing out that only about 20% of Vayne's damage to champions is coming from Silver Bolts. Armor/health/etc is still largely effective against Vayne's damage output.
Bot lane champs arent exactly stacking those resistances. Vayne isnt only deadly to tanks....As an example, Grave's passive means nothing to Vayne..

Shields are effective against Vayne but we already know the issues with shields in this game.


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Kyuubey

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10-30-2013

Since people who complain about these seem to ignore every other part of Vayne, it seems I should too.

It would take 39 consecutive hits for the silver bolts alone to kill a target.


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It's worth pointing out that only about 20% of Vayne's damage to champions is coming from Silver Bolts. Armor/health/etc is still largely effective against Vayne's damage output.

Also, some of the most common anti-AD items are effective against Silver Bolts. Exhaust, Randuin's Omen, and Frozen Heart all slow attack speed, reducing the damage of Silver Bolts.

There's also in-battle counterplay. Vayne has to hit a target three times in a row in order to get the reward. If you and a friend fight her together and you can dance in and out of range/vision to make her switch targets, you greatly drop her damage output.
Dance around Vayne? Doesn't she have her passive, level up Condemn, Tumble, and Final Hour? Did she decide to not buy a BotRK for some reason?


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inbredpsychosis

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10-30-2013

I used to be a big anti-Vayne guy about a month ago. Then Jinx showed up and put every ADC to shame. Just secure Jinx on your team and it won't matter if they pick Vayne because Vayne can't lane. Nah meen?


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Kagami

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10-30-2013

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There's also in-battle counterplay. Vayne has to hit a target three times in a row in order to get the reward. If you and a friend fight her together and you can dance in and out of range/vision to make her switch targets, you greatly drop her damage output.
you say that when Vayne is quite possibly the most mobile adc in combat the game especially with her being able to aa -> q -> aa -> e proc it very quickly.


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BruisingPrune

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10-30-2013

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It's worth pointing out that only about 20% of Vayne's damage to champions is coming from Silver Bolts. Armor/health/etc is still largely effective against Vayne's damage output.

Also, some of the most common anti-AD items are effective against Silver Bolts. Exhaust, Randuin's Omen, and Frozen Heart all slow attack speed, reducing the damage of Silver Bolts.

There's also in-battle counterplay. Vayne has to hit a target three times in a row in order to get the reward. If you and a friend fight her together and you can dance in and out of range/vision to make her switch targets, you greatly drop her damage output.
Most of the people on this board don't understand the concepts of teamwork and are in the mindset of "I'm going to run headfirst at everything and if it kills me then its OP"