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Zileas

VP of Game Design

10-29-2013
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Originally Posted by Farranor View Post
Just BTW here, Zileas, but Brent Rambo II doesn't actually care about bruisers or game balance. He just hates Vayne. It's all he talks about.
Well he should. Because silver bolts. And especially annoying if it's the heartseeker Vayne skin.


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GhostStalker

Senior Member

10-29-2013

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Originally Posted by Zileas View Post
Bruisers have always been in a weird position from a play balance standpoint. There is some thought going on around those in terms of how to make them fit in in a less binary way. A lot of the 'top lane snowball' problems we used to think are primarily from the isolation of the lane are as much from the binary nature of many of those characters, where so much of their power is stat driven.
So you don't want game-play to come from raw stats, but from decision making with the champions kits? That seems like a great goal. I just wish you guys could change all of them all at the same time so no one gets left behind.

Or is that what CertainlyT is doing?


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Brent Rambo II

Senior Member

10-29-2013

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Originally Posted by farranor View Post
just btw here, zileas, but brent rambo ii doesn't actually care about bruisers or game balance. He just hates vayne. It's all he talks about.
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PigCheese

Senior Member

10-29-2013

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Zileas I think he is pointing to a fact that ranged has an advantage over melee, if they didnt why pick them?
I was watching a challenger smurfing and he was getting mad at this garen and this is the conversation

Garen: I can't do anything they picked jayce and ranged coutners mellee champs
Bubbadub to his stream: Does this guy seriously think that ranged always counters mellee.

Conclusion: If you really think that ranged counters mellee then why are all these people first picking mellee champs every single game? I mean seriously that makes no sence to first pick something when half the champs in the game completely counters you.


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Aolong Hong

Senior Member

10-29-2013

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Originally Posted by Urzdaym View Post
If you lose to Vayne as Xin Zhao you are doing something VERY wrong.
What.
Xin Zhao literally has ONE gapcloser.
She has a disengage.
See how this will work out?

Xin Zhao e's.
Vayne E Q's.
Xin Zhao is then kited to death.

May be wrong here though, so care to tell me how he'll beat her?


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Shattered Clock

Senior Member

10-29-2013

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Originally Posted by Zileas View Post
Well he should. Because silver bolts. And especially annoying if it's the heartseeker Vayne skin.
Especially if she has a Volibear assisting her with a kill.

Armored Bear menace.


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Fizzs Pole

Junior Member

10-29-2013

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I refuse to accept feedback from someone named 'Ashes Boobs'
1) wat?
2) also - syntax fail -- didn't you mean.... Ashe's Boobs?

okay, you are welcome.
Apostrophes are lame.


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CerealBoxOfDoom

Senior Member

10-29-2013

would like to inquire about the relationship between the success of vayne in tournament play vs the success of shield champs/champs with sudden and significant healing in tournament play


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League of Luck

Senior Member

10-29-2013

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Originally Posted by TheBIackStallion View Post
What.
Xin Zhao literally has ONE gapcloser.
She has a disengage.
See how this will work out?

Xin Zhao e's.
Vayne E Q's.
Xin Zhao is then kited to death.

May be wrong here though, so care to tell me how he'll beat her?
Carries have naturally low MS.

Bait her into condemning you first OR position yourself around a brush so that when she pushes away you disengage and drop target.

I can guarantee the one hit of Three-Talon and Audacious does more than her AA/Tumble/Condemn hit.


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The White Plague

Senior Member

10-29-2013

Lol try playing Singed against Vayne top.

Go on, go, I'm waiting.
It's worse then Teemo.