@RIOT: Allow Ziggs to cast abilities while being knocked by Satchel Charge

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sirplayalot11

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10-15-2013

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Originally Posted by Meddler View Post
Just checked and this still works for me, it's not something we've intentionally tried to remove either.

If you're seeing certain situations where you can't cast mid air (and aren't CC'd by something else at the same time) let us know, will give that a look.
yeah, same here, just a month ago i did a cast animation in air, got a pentakill with him(aram)because of that, so if they ninja nerfed it, had to be within the last 2 patches.


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aces2kj

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10-15-2013

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Originally Posted by Meddler View Post
Just checked and this still works for me, it's not something we've intentionally tried to remove either.

If you're seeing certain situations where you can't cast mid air (and aren't CC'd by something else at the same time) let us know, will give that a look.
This was removed for khazix but its ok for ziggs to do it?


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orghak 11

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10-15-2013

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Originally Posted by Meddler View Post
Just checked and this still works for me, it's not something we've intentionally tried to remove either.

If you're seeing certain situations where you can't cast mid air (and aren't CC'd by something else at the same time) let us know, will give that a look.
They said something similar about Vlad's ult bug. Then they made up a reason saying that it was intentional. Now they consider it a bug again.

I don't want to know if you're lying to us because that's a given. I want to know when we're going to get a real answer.


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Paused Game

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10-15-2013

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This was removed for khazix but its ok for ziggs to do it?
Yeah Kha Zix's combo just doesn't feel fluid or assassin-like anymore.


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advancedAI

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10-15-2013

Did they change something?

As far as I know... He CAN do that!


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Meddler

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10-15-2013
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Originally Posted by aces2kj View Post
This was removed for khazix but its ok for ziggs to do it?
The issue with Khazix was how it compressed his damage into a really small window. In Ziggs' case that problem doesn't apply - 99%+ of the time using Satchel Charge to land directly on an enemy to burst point blank isn't even remotely a good play, particularly since it involves sacrificing a damaging spell. Ziggs' casts while airborne instead tend to be getting in a parting shot while disengaging or trying for a kill shot while chasing neither of which has, so far at least, proven to be problematic, especially given Ziggs' damage output has a fair degree of unreliability.

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Originally Posted by orghak 11 View Post
They said something similar about Vlad's ult bug. Then they made up a reason saying that it was intentional. Now they consider it a bug again.

I don't want to know if you're lying to us because that's a given. I want to know when we're going to get a real answer.
We had some internal confusion about the cast lock on Vlad's ult which resulted in different attitudes to it being a bug or not being discussed on the forums. Apologies for that, agree that sort of inconsistency's frustrating to deal with and it's something we want to minimize, it's one of the occasional costs of discussing that sort of issue publicly though, which we overall feel's a net positive.

Regarding Ziggs' casts while airborne not sure what else I can say. The original design intent was that he could, it's been that way since launch (and still is) and we've currently got no plans to change that


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MsterChiefBatman

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10-15-2013

U took away the bug part of khazix :'( i cried for a week it was my most favorite thing ever


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MsterChiefBatman

Junior Member

10-15-2013

even if u nerfed the damage in midair...it was just the coolest thing ever. especially with the mecha skin


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VerySuperHero

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10-15-2013

kha can do it, with his leap and mid air q and w


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KuroShadow

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10-15-2013

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Originally Posted by Meddler View Post
Just checked and this still works for me, it's not something we've intentionally tried to remove either.

If you're seeing certain situations where you can't cast mid air (and aren't CC'd by something else at the same time) let us know, will give that a look.
sometimes q doesn't launch until you land, that's pretty annoying