Morello: "We want Morgana lanes to be less autofarm"

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Magni

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10-13-2013

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Originally Posted by Satarrusx View Post
The why bring Ahri into this wasn't directly targeted at you but that aside - sorry no, killing minions with a stationary spell over 5 sec duration isn't better than 1shotting them with a instant dmg spell. Ever.
Everyone in this thread always acts as though the minions aren't mostly stationary in the lane phase.

Unless the other guy is killing them instantly, the minions will stay in place long enough for Morg's W to deal its full damage, and since Morg gets to the caster-minion-one-spell-waveclear phase faster than other mids, that's usually not a problem.

Also Ahri cannot one shot caster minions ever unless she purchases straight AP, and her waveclear gets pretty abysmal if she falls behind. Morgana doesn't suffer from that. I really don't know why everyone always talks about Ahri's waveclear as though it were phenomenal when there are dozens of APs who have a better time clearing waves than she does. Brand, Viktor, Ziggs, Malzahar, Mordekaiser, Anivia, Morgana, Cassiopeia, Annie, Gragas, AP Janna, AP Soraka, Karthus, AP Kog'Maw, Orianna, Veigar, Vladimir, and Zyra all have better waveclear than Ahri.


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Satarrusx

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10-13-2013

Is this the part where we ignore the fact that most Morg counterpicks can more or less instakill minions to force their own minions to move away from the puddle, or..? And Ahri 1shotting caster minions with Q isn't exactly uncommon.

But as I said before, this whole comparison with Ahri is dumb.


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Riot Morgageddon

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10-13-2013
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Morgageddon pokes back in, he's a bit busy at work today.

I did first recommend the 80/90/100/110/120 change on a post somewhere a day or so ago, but I don't know if that'll fix it. I've piddled around with her on PBE and that's why I made that long post on the PBE forums about it. Without the MR shred and the reduced flat numbers, it's still a nerf to farm currently. And hopefully everyone remembers I comment a lot as a player, so while I have a lovely red tag, I am just expressing my opinions and findings as well, hence why I think the current numbers don't work for the intended purpose.


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Asul

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10-13-2013

there goes my Morgana T_T R.I.P my main.


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chumbler

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10-13-2013

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Originally Posted by Riot Morgageddon View Post
Morgageddon pokes back in, he's a bit busy at work today.

I did first recommend the 80/90/100/110/120 change on a post somewhere a day or so ago, but I don't know if that'll fix it. I've piddled around with her on PBE and that's why I made that long post on the PBE forums about it. Without the MR shred and the reduced flat numbers, it's still a nerf to farm currently. And hopefully everyone remembers I comment a lot as a player, so while I have a lovely red tag, I am just expressing my opinions and findings as well, hence why I think the current numbers don't work for the intended purpose.
What even is the purpose? If you don't want her to just drop a pool and fart off without interacting with the enenmy laner, maybe you should give her a reasonable way to interact with the enemy laner that isn't reliant on landing a slow, long cooldown, minion blocked skill shot and dropping your wave clearing spell on them.


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Vegas Dad

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10-13-2013

I just hope this is a theme riot pursues for all champs that have this type of safe afk style farming. Some champs abilities simply trvialize Csing and laning because they have such safe and effective farming skills.


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OMG halp meh plz

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10-13-2013

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Originally Posted by Riot Morgageddon View Post
Morgageddon pokes back in, he's a bit busy at work today.

I did first recommend the 80/90/100/110/120 change on a post somewhere a day or so ago, but I don't know if that'll fix it. I've piddled around with her on PBE and that's why I made that long post on the PBE forums about it. Without the MR shred and the reduced flat numbers, it's still a nerf to farm currently. And hopefully everyone remembers I comment a lot as a player, so while I have a lovely red tag, I am just expressing my opinions and findings as well, hence why I think the current numbers don't work for the intended purpose.
Riot Morgana's fan, why are you one of the few posting Rioters who actually seems to know what's going on in the game?


Don't answer, I know you'll defend your co-workers/friends, but I want you to know that your opinions are the only sensible ones I'm seeing.


That is all.


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GhostStalker

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10-13-2013

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What even is the purpose? If you don't want her to just drop a pool and fart off without interacting with the enenmy laner, maybe you should give her a reasonable way to interact with the enemy laner that isn't reliant on landing a slow, long cooldown, minion blocked skill shot and dropping your wave clearing spell on them.
This is actually pretty concise.

I think the new way morgana's soil works is fine, so long as the damage against mininos is increased so she can still farm.


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Flandore

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10-13-2013

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Originally Posted by Riot Morgageddon View Post
Morgageddon pokes back in, he's a bit busy at work today.

I did first recommend the 80/90/100/110/120 change on a post somewhere a day or so ago, but I don't know if that'll fix it. I've piddled around with her on PBE and that's why I made that long post on the PBE forums about it. Without the MR shred and the reduced flat numbers, it's still a nerf to farm currently. And hopefully everyone remembers I comment a lot as a player, so while I have a lovely red tag, I am just expressing my opinions and findings as well, hence why I think the current numbers don't work for the intended purpose.


http://forums.na.leagueoflegends.com...hlight=morgana

This is the results of testing Morgana's QW & QWR combo.

- less farm potential, less dmg than live server -


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Spearball

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10-13-2013

Morgageddon is our hero. Srs.