Morello just said Void Staff is OP. EVERYBODY ABUSE VOID STAFF QUICk!

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Elewd

Senior Member

09-11-2013

so riot DID know, i mean it gives more raw damage than buying a rabadons deathcap. same for lastwhisper, however items for ad also give extra effects such as lifesteal and critchance/damage.


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Assassin530

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09-11-2013

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Are you not already? I sure am.
Morello, What about LW and BC? how exactly are the state of these two items together and by themselves in your opinion? Considering how cost efficient LW is I feel that it should cost considerably more than it does currently. That or give little to no bonus AD.

Edit: Maybe even a new recipe.


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Elewd

Senior Member

09-11-2013

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Morello, What about LW and BC? how exactly are the state of these two items together and by themselves in your opinion? Considering how cost efficient LW is I feel that it should cost considerably more than it does currently. That or give little to no bonus AD.
Im not a red or anything but i'll give my opinion on it,

Black cleaver is actually in a decent spot due to its cost, it gives you the right amount of stats for its cost.

lastwhisper is cheaper than a bloodthirster and gives you more raw damage due to the armor penetration part.


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Sleipnir of Hel

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09-11-2013

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I've been playing more junglers, so not buying it as often then of course . But pound-per-pound, it's one of the best AP items out there - MR or not.
I find myself not buying it as much, but rather opting for flat MR reduction. MPen boots, Liandry, and Abyssal. Don't get me wrong, it's a great buy, but I prefer utility over raw damage.


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Arczer

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09-11-2013

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I've been playing more junglers, so not buying it as often then of course . But pound-per-pound, it's one of the best AP items out there - MR or not.
One of the only problems I encounter with it is that shields & health counter it pretty hard, so, try to keep that in mind when comparing Voidstaff to something like Deathcap
Otherwise, I agree


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Morello

Lead Designer

09-11-2013
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Morello, What about LW and BC? how exactly are the state of these two items together and by themselves in your opinion? Considering how cost efficient LW is I feel that it should cost considerably more than it does currently. That or give little to no bonus AD.
The problem is mostly based around that Void Staff and LW are just simply solid damage items as opposed to situational buys to deal with heavy resist stacks. BC's flat pen doesn't apply to this because flat pen is actually more effective against lower resistances (due to diminishing returns on the effect of resists). BC is a damage item that helps physical damage teammates.


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Red Ryu

Senior Member

09-11-2013

Void staff gives a good chunk of AP with that MR pen.


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Elewd

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09-11-2013

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I find myself not buying it as much, but rather opting for flat MR reduction. MPen boots, Liandry, and Abyssal. Don't get me wrong, it's a great buy, but I prefer utility over raw damage.
Liandries gives you less magic pen than a Voidstaff for an extra 700 gold. The passive isn't even that useful on a lot of people as well, you wouldn't buy it on syndra or Veigar. you want more raw damage from them.


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0xiDIzE

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09-11-2013

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I've been playing more junglers, so not buying it as often then of course . But pound-per-pound, it's one of the best AP items out there - MR or not.
C'mon, it's not like anybody rushes Void Staff first. It's fourth or fifth in your progression, assuming it's even a necessary item. No more or less useful than LW to an ADC.

Besides, as someone who plays all roles, I think AP-based champions are still a lot worse off than their AD counterparts. Mages are pretty much dead except for a select couple.


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anonymous4000

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09-11-2013

I feel like if Void Staff gets nerfed, single target bursters, such as Veigar or Leblanc, whose position in the game aren't superb at the moment, will be hit the hardest because if the enemy just buys a single MR item like banshees or spirit visage, their kill potential goes way down.


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