[bug][udyr]

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masao99

Junior Member

04-30-2013

Hi. Udyr's tiger stance's dot damage proc is disappearing when I switch the stance away from tiger.

Could you please tell me weather this is intended or not.


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Volty

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04-30-2013
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Yes, this is intended. The temporary attack speed from Tiger Stance lasts 5 seconds, swap stance or not, but the first attack bonus can only be applied if you are still in Tiger Stance. Upcoming changes to the tooltips and buffs will make this more clear.


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Riot Sotere

Game Analyst

04-30-2013

Ouch. Poor Tigerdyr.


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Sturmhard

Senior Member

04-30-2013

Wait, you cannot preload your tiger stance anymore?

Now THAT would be a hefty nerf. If true it completely kills tiger stance.


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Mewuvmyself

Senior Member

04-30-2013

So basically Tiger Udyr is dead??? w00t


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Peligrad

Senior Member

04-30-2013

THIS IS GAME BREAKING.

Congratulations, you just made Udyr unplayable.

Do you honestly think that the pathetic .1 AD ratio that you have to put 5 points to get or the .15 per auto make up for this even in the slightest?

NOT EVEN CLOSE.

You just lost 1.5 AD+ base damage per time you close to melee... to make up for that you have to melee 10 times (and be in tiger stance while you do it) just to get the ratio back...

To 100% mitigate the damage, just CC Udyr and walk away. He can't use bear stance to gap close without losing the tiger stance damage. He can't even shield himself without losing it.
Tiger stance, a damage only ability, is no longer a reliable damage source.

CONGRATS RIOT YOU JUST MADE UDYR EVEN EASIER TO KITE. As if he wasn't the most kitable champion in the game already, now you just have to get out of melee range when you see the tiger icon and he can't reclose the gap on you with bear without losing all the damage...

How many times a game are you going to get CC'd in a team fight right after activating tiger stance? A ton... now you just lose out on that damage or lose out on another potentially game changing ability.

Do you honestly think that's a healthy game-play change or did you just do ZERO play testing before allowing this to go live?

You just took one of my favorite champions and tossed him in the dumpster...


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Mestergrog

Senior Member

04-30-2013

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Originally Posted by Volty View Post
Yes, this is intended. The temporary attack speed from Tiger Stance lasts 5 seconds, swap stance or not, but the first attack bonus can only be applied if you are still in Tiger Stance. Upcoming changes to the tooltips and buffs will make this more clear.
But switching to another stance with the Tiger bonus DoT still ready for your next attack was frequently a major part of Udyr's gameplay. Was this intended to nerf Udyr?
If not, can the change be reverted in a later patch?


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Sturmhard

Senior Member

04-30-2013

this is actually hotfix worthy.

no one is ever gonna level up tiger just to supplement phoenix with attackspeed. because this is all tiger is still good for now.


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Peligrad

Senior Member

04-30-2013

More like can it be hot fixed right now?

tiger stance is a dead skill. NO ONE is going to use it FOR ANYTHING above 900 ELO...

tiger stance into bear stun was how you traded in lane. Tiger stance into bear stun into phoenix is how you gank as jungle...

Udyr without tiger priming is like playing a champion without being able to use their ult...


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TheWolfky

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04-30-2013

While playing a few games as Udyr post patch, I noticed that the .15ad bonus wasn't actually applying or there. I think that should be hotfixed since that was one of the "tradeoffs" for taking away the attack speed on tiger stance.


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