Shouldn't Vi's R proc her W?

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Arcobaleno288

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01-21-2013

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N Rizzle

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01-21-2013

vi is really strong right now, adding a w proc on her ulti would make her unbalanced. Vi is really good right now and i personally think shes a bit more near overpowered than underpowered.


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Fomorian27

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01-21-2013

How about if her denting blows required more than three stacks to get the full effect? Like 4 or 5 or something? Would that work?


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Eclipse Apostle

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01-21-2013

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Off topic, but you should swap your avatar to Vi, since she's way less hated.
gypsylord is such a Brocean of wisdom and niceness that he can be loved even while repping the 'Mo.


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MandyMemory

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01-21-2013

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While having R apply Denting Blows was thematic and felt great as part of Vi's combo it was just waaaaay too powerful. Assuming the guy you ulted didn't have his team around to protect him R,AA,E,Q,AA,E was an almost guaranteed Double-Proc on W (with the last Q,AA,E all benefiting from the armor shred). Too much burst.

Sure, could have kept the stack on R. Combo would have felt great. In exchange would probably have had to nerf damage on W, E, and/or Q tremendously. Would have ended up making Vi more binary. Is my ult up? I burst you for all your life. Is it down? Looks like I have nothing to do since I need R to effectively combo.
Right now she's a tad weak...so it wouldn't really hurt.


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And it was K

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01-21-2013

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Off topic, but you should swap your avatar to Vi, since she's way less hated.
^ This

Seeing your avatar makes my blood boil.


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EnderForHegemon

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01-21-2013

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Right now she's a tad weak...so it wouldn't really hurt.
nerfing Q W and E, loading massive power in R, and making Vi binary is a good idea because Vi is too weak? o.()


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nillthium

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01-21-2013

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Originally Posted by gypsylord View Post
While having R apply Denting Blows was thematic and felt great as part of Vi's combo it was just waaaaay too powerful. Assuming the guy you ulted didn't have his team around to protect him R,AA,E,Q,AA,E was an almost guaranteed Double-Proc on W (with the last Q,AA,E all benefiting from the armor shred). Too much burst.

Sure, could have kept the stack on R. Combo would have felt great. In exchange would probably have had to nerf damage on W, E, and/or Q tremendously. Would have ended up making Vi more binary. Is my ult up? I burst you for all your life. Is it down? Looks like I have nothing to do since I need R to effectively combo.
talking about binary characters...... yi feels that way when he doesn't have ult....


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madjai

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01-21-2013

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Originally Posted by gypsylord View Post
While having R apply Denting Blows was thematic and felt great as part of Vi's combo it was just waaaaay too powerful. Assuming the guy you ulted didn't have his team around to protect him R,AA,E,Q,AA,E was an almost guaranteed Double-Proc on W (with the last Q,AA,E all benefiting from the armor shred). Too much burst.

Sure, could have kept the stack on R. Combo would have felt great. In exchange would probably have had to nerf damage on W, E, and/or Q tremendously. Would have ended up making Vi more binary. Is my ult up? I burst you for all your life. Is it down? Looks like I have nothing to do since I need R to effectively combo.

Not all the bugs are fixed gypsy. Please check it!


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gypsylord

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01-21-2013
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How about if her denting blows required more than three stacks to get the full effect? Like 4 or 5 or something? Would that work?
Denting blows used to deal significantly more damage and stack to 4 back in development. The original intent was to create tension around getting that first proc. Q, AA, E gave three stacks; hard part was getting that 4th one.

So why did I end up switching to 3 stacks? Because while it was cool that Vi had to work for W proc #1, she could never really expect to get a 2nd proc. Q,AA, E, AA, E left her with no spells and only 1 stack of the passive. Getting those last 3 hits just wasn't feasible.

Had to ask myself which pattern would be better for Vi in the long run. 4 Stacks made the first proc difficult but the unlikeliness of getting a second proc encouraged a Talon like play pattern that was all about charging in, unloading the burst, and then running away because you had nothing to do until your spells were back up. 3 stacks made getting one proc easy, but it also encouraged Vi to commit harder to engagements and brawl for longer all for the chance of getting that second W.

So yeah, felt the second playstyle was closer to what Vi's character is about (getting in people's face and hitting them a ton) so I decided to go with 3 stacks.