New League System in Ranked

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TheEmoTeemo

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01-15-2013

Isn't this what Starcraft 2 does?


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Arizona

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01-15-2013

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Originally Posted by Yegg View Post
It's not a big deal if you lose a division or promotion series. You'll simply end up back in the ladder rankings with say, 60-90 LP (depending on how the series went) and there's nothing preventing you from qualifying for another series quickly.
So does this mean when we play these "promotion series" games if we have garbage teammates the first game of the series, we're going to be stuck with them for best of 3 or 5?


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LordGwaihir

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01-15-2013

So what league, tier, division we are in is arbitrary since who we get queued up and ultimately play against to progress through and out of those won't really ever be those people. Also did i read that correct that once we progress to a new tier (just got Plat) we can't go down to gold? the FAQ makes it seem like thats the case but the red stated that wasn't true at all.

I'm confused. The new system seems visually more appealing but the back end is still the same old mess (we just can't see the mess now).


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Srey

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01-15-2013

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It's still far better to win those matches than to lose them. If you win you gain LP and are that much closer to the next advancement series. Having more LP is always better for you, so players will always want to win a match rather than lose it, even if they won't lose any LP from a loss.

If players don't lose LP then they just need to win 3/5 games to advance to the next bracket? Seems easy...


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Colfunderscorero

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01-15-2013

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Originally Posted by Kiwdahc View Post
You can switch to lower tier divisions. This is the exact same rating system Starcraft 2 has. Go look at it if you need more of an example.
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Originally Posted by Yegg View Post
What happens if I lose a ranked match in the league system?

Losing a ranked game in the league system will cost some of your League Points. If you’re already at the bottom of your division, this may mean falling back to the previous division . Once you’ve earned a skill tier, however, you can never be demoted to the previous tier unless you stop playing for a prolonged period of time.

In other words, losing can never cause you to fall below 0 League Points in the lowest division of your league.
Go read


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Exploding Barrel

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01-15-2013

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Originally Posted by Srey View Post
If players don't lose LP then they just need to win 3/5 games to advance to the next bracket? Seems easy...
They only don't lose LP when they're already at zero LP and are in that promotion grace period.


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Scrulox

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01-15-2013

Regarding those series games, is it just the next 5 or 3 match-making games? or do we have to play against the same team until one team wins the series.


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Yegg

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01-15-2013
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Originally Posted by Celenphor View Post
What's the logic behind hiding our ELO, or "match making ranking" from us?

Personally, I LIKE being able to track my ELO, however low it may be. It's my motivation for wading through the B.S and trolls to play ranked games in the first place. I don't think seeing a generic League badge is going to feel nearly as personalized or rewarding.
You're not just earning a "generic league badge". You still have tiers, divisions, and League Points to battle over as you progress through the system. You also get to compete on a ladder with a small grouping of other players, often which will include your friends, rather than being just a cog in a giant wheel of hundreds of thousands of opponents.

Give it a try and give us feedback though! We're aiming to have the league system on the PBE shortly.


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zergman

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01-15-2013

They tried this in Starcraft 2 and though lots of people liked it the hardcore gamers at the top complained there wasn't a defined ladder ranking. They ended up making Grandmaster League which was it's own league of 200 players. Does the top LOL league work the same way with only one division so we can easily know who the top players in the country are?


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Super Explosion

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01-15-2013

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You should read the riot posts. He states that there's a small grace period where you will not drop out of your division as a kind of reward for getting into a new division. Once that grace period is over you will drop out of the division if you lose enough.
You drop out of a "Division", not "Tier".

A "Division" is within a "Tier".

So you can be "Division 1 Silver" or "Division 1 Gold", which are one whole Tier apart. (Silver to Gold.)

Yegg indicated that once you reach a new "skill tier" (Gold), you cannot leave it.