Laners: the S3 Jungle is not the S2 jungle.

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The Awed One

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01-03-2013

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Originally Posted by sdjaks View Post
I rarely even get them (and don't even bother on the first clear), they hit far too hard and are really out of the way depending on which side you are playing on.
That is a huge mistake, and probably why you find yourself constantly behind.


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Endertome

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01-03-2013

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I rarely even get them (and don't even bother on the first clear), they hit far too hard and are really out of the way depending on which side you are playing on.
There's a reason Bot (and top, on purple side) are always poaching Double Golems: High XP and gold value. By 20 minutes they're worth almost 100 gold together, or something to that effect.

It would really help your jungling to work them into the route.

I noticed that Vi has a pretty easy time with them due to Denting Blows.


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Still Eternity

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01-03-2013

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What I mean is, If my mid is 0/2 or worse, he isn't getting my second blue.
I agree. If your Midlane hasn't proved himself capable of keeping the Blue, you are more than welcome to keep it for yourself. The Jungle is the Property of the Jungler: It is by their will alone that they let the Midlaner the the Blue Buff.


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Today I am Death

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01-03-2013

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Hmm.. I don't really understand why people hate golems so much... With nearly all the junglers I pick i can go Wolves -> blue (smite) -> wraiths -> Golem -> red (smite) -> wraith -> wolves and be lvl 4 before I get to wolves without going back and generally still have a few pots.. and this is without leashes.. granted I pick somewhat tanky junglers but still.
Who the hell u been jungling with?

the only champion that can do that route with a few pots left is fiddlesticks but he isn't tanky. maybe Warwick but i dont think so without a leash


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MugenNightmare

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01-03-2013

Also mid, ward your damn bushes. It's not that I don't want to ward, but I'm a bit strapped for cash!


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The Awed One

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01-04-2013

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Who the hell u been jungling with?

the only champion that can do that route with a few pots left is fiddlesticks but he isn't tanky. maybe Warwick but i dont think so without a leash
I can do that with Olaf, Maokai, Fiddle, Warwick, Jax, Xin, Amumu, Mundo, Kayle, and Karthus ... it's pretty typical. If you can't do that, you're probably running sub-optimal runes or masteries, or are one of those people that refuses to get a Machete because it's "useless."


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Paintrain6242

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01-04-2013

bump worthy


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Kaalika

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01-04-2013

Especially don't take my wraiths WHEN I'M AT MY RED.


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sdjaks

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That is a huge mistake, and probably why you find yourself constantly behind.
No, trying to take them on without smite would be a huge mistake, and would set me far behind everyone else. They are out of the way and really only worth the effort past level 5.

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Especially don't take my wraiths WHEN I'M AT MY RED.
God, this is so frustrating. In a game last night I had an Ashe taking my golems when she was LEVEL 5. I don't know why she had left bot lane to begin with, but 10 minutes into the game is a bit early to be poaching xp.


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Chaos80

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01-04-2013

I know tons of players who never learned how to properly play with a jungler, yet somehow rely on them to get anything done in the lane. People need to wake up, especially now that it's more difficult to gank