What Makes a Jungler a Jungler to Riot?

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GlavTech

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12-30-2012

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And yet both are completely viable in lane.
What about the inverse of your idea?

Why exactly haven't champions been made for jungle, but champions have been made for top (and are explicitly viable in top)?


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Crowcide

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12-30-2012

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And yet both are completely viable in lane.
I have never seen a lane Nocture at high level play. I haven't seen a lane WW at high level play in years. Seems like a pretty unfounded statement.


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CertainlyT

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12-30-2012
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What about the inverse of your idea?

Why exactly haven't champions been made for jungle, but champions have been made for top (and are explicitly viable in top)?
Can you give examples?


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CertainlyT

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12-30-2012
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I have never seen a lane Nocture at high level play. I haven't seen a lane WW at high level play in years. Seems like a pretty unfounded statement.
Two teams ran Nocturne mid this month at the OGN winter championships.


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Alphazonex

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12-30-2012

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Champions that can function in multiple game roles are healthier champions, since more people can access them and explore their abilities in a variety of contexts.
You say this. But what about champions like Lulu/Soraka? They were able to function in solo lanes, yet they were purposely nerfed for those reasons. Lulu especially.


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AButtFlap

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12-30-2012

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Two teams ran Nocturne mid this month at the OGN winter championships.
do you have a link for this?? o.O


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GlavTech

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12-30-2012

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Can you give examples?
I would say Akali, but she's a viable midlane, so I won't.

Garen is the first champion that comes to mind as a top that can't viably jungle.

Renekton is another.


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Ternce

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12-30-2012

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And yet both are completely viable in lane. . ..
Warwick is a shell of what he used to be because of top lane. Top lane ruined him. He found only heartache and nerfs after a few months of domination. He can barely even jungle anymore.

Please don't tell people to take good junglers to lanes. You will get the champions killed.


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MyDeadGrandma

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12-30-2012

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Can you give examples?
Darius' designer acting clueless about top lane, colour the forum surprised.

Anywho, as an example: Riven. It was stated the Riven was released with the intent of being able to go toe to toe with the then ridiculous top laners Irelia and Lee Sin.


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CertainlyT

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12-30-2012
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You say this. But what about champions like Lulu/Soraka? They were able to function in solo lanes, yet they were purposely nerfed for those reasons. Lulu especially.
This is a very good point. I'd contend that on-hit Lulu is still viable outside of the LAN setting. Malady really helps her.

It's unfortunate that these two champions have kits which make balancing them as solo laners a real challenge. However, when AP Lulu and Soraka can lane effectively, they pretty much ruin the experience of whoever they are fighting.


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