Noxian Guilotine 100 cd lvl1, Demacian Justice 140 cd lvl1.

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Dig Dux

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11-27-2012

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Originally Posted by Beas7ie View Post
http://lolcounter.com/search.php?search=Darius


Tries to dunk - Whoops that true damage ult just deals 33% less damage huehuehue, enjoy that CD. Oh and look up

Get's nailed by giant sword.
True damage is not mitigated by Garen's w it has to be a health based shield.
It is TRUE DAMAGE


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dogbiter

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11-27-2012

lolcounter isnt accurate


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Jesus the Friend

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11-27-2012

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Originally Posted by Beas7ie View Post
http://lolcounter.com/search.php?search=Darius

Who's that in the bottom right there? Oh it's Garen
And how are those stats compiled? oh yeah probably newbs voting.

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Now let's go over what really happens.

Tries to decimate - gets hit with silence and spin combo

Gets a few stacks on Garen - Garen uses his shield to mitigate the damage and falls back to let his passive heal back up
During the "falls back" part, he gets pulled by Darius.

You don't seem to have ever played the match up before...

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Has to carefully manage his skills or go OOM - Garen can spam his skills all he wants and never has to leave lane
Darius has little if any problems with mana.

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Tries to dunk - Whoops that true damage ult just deals 33% less damage huehuehue, enjoy that CD. Oh and look up
Courage does not decrease the damage from Noxian Guillotine
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Griftrix

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11-27-2012
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Karthus ult, does damage to every enemy champion, Jayce ult, does 0 damage to anyone, only changes his weapon stance. Balance?

Didn't I already explain that champion kits aren't balanced for all ults to be of equal power, or all passives to be of equal power, but for the entire champion kit and ratios and base stats and leveling stats to be balanced together as a complete package.


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CupcakeRaptorr

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11-27-2012

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Karthus ult, does damage to every enemy champion, Jayce ult, does 0 damage to anyone, only changes his weapon stance. Balance?

Didn't I already explain that champion kits aren't balanced for all ults to be of equal power, or all passives to be of equal power, but for the entire champion kit and ratios and base stats and leveling stats to be balanced together as a complete package.
What do you know! You're not a designer!


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Griftrix

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11-27-2012
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Originally Posted by CupcakeRaptorr View Post
What do you know! Your not a designer!
It's ok. I'm so sure of this that I don't even need a disclaimer.


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jebroni

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11-27-2012

For laning phase garen is probably even less counterplay-able than darius. You can't do anything about a 3 second silence as he spins on you. You can, however, out play and bait a darius q.

Garen is manaless, darius is not. And yes, darius does run into mana problems against sustain tops.

Can't really defend darius's ult here... it is strong. But luckily, darius is countered by: garen.


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Razy7twist

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11-27-2012

you got him wrapped up like a baby!

bucky... bucky


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Actingman

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11-27-2012

The two abilities may seem similar, but you're comparing two different things.


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Jixson

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11-27-2012

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Originally Posted by Griftrix View Post
Karthus ult, does damage to every enemy champion, Jayce ult, does 0 damage to anyone, only changes his weapon stance. Balance?

Didn't I already explain that champion kits aren't balanced for all ults to be of equal power, or all passives to be of equal power, but for the entire champion kit and ratios and base stats and leveling stats to be balanced together as a complete package.
and Kat is balanced of course, right.
because non-mana user champions have to be balanced around cooldowns somehow. meanwhile kat gets resets on kills and assists, and riven can build useful items to increase all her damage. while garen needs magic pen for some reason to increase his ults power.