You cant be serious about this ban

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MaR10s

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11-26-2012

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Originally Posted by Jassu View Post
If someone is continuously doing something to annoy others, even after being asked to stop multiple times by multiple people, then I see it as an issue. Do you disagree?
Since when annoying your opponents is wrong? It's called mind games. Why wouldn't I do something that can possibly lead my opponent to make a bad decision?


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Coolcoollo

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11-26-2012

This is gold.

Taunting a player in any way shape or form is being a jerk.

>be a jerk
>get banned
>use taunt
>get banned.

thank you basedriot.


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Tryphikik

Senior Member

11-26-2012

Meh, maybe I just have more of a tolerance and don't expect people to cater to my every like or dislike... but I've never thought someone was being a jerk because they spammed emotes. I thought they were entertaining themselves. You have to be really picky and irritable for that to seem banworthy in my opinion..


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Jassu

Senior Member

11-26-2012

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Originally Posted by MaR10s View Post
Since when annoying your opponents is wrong? It's called mind games. Why wouldn't I do something that can possibly lead my opponent to make a bad decision?
Do you truly believe it's okay for you to intentionally make another's gaming experience terrible or miserable?


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Neonshaman

Senior Member

11-26-2012

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Originally Posted by WookieeCookie View Post
Don't be a jerk.

Players frequently write to my team full of excuses for their case, or fearful that they're going to get banned in the future.

They often want to debate the Summoner's Code down point by point.

Is it okay to do this? What about that? What if someone else does X, and I do Y to them in retaliation? Can I get banned for Z?

And our response can always be summed up with one simple phrase:

Don't be a jerk


Sometimes player's ask why isn't the Summoner's Code more specific? Why doesn't it specify each and every action I can or can't do? But they don't notice that we wrote the Code that way on purpose.

We don't want to run a game dictated by strict specific rules. Because every game is unique, and played by different standards.


How much fun would a rule be that says you can never say the F word in your matches?

How much fun would a rule be that says last pick must always be support?

How much fun would a rule say that you can never be Rammus support because he's not considered "optimal" by the community?


Every game should be judged by its own context. And that's why the core rule is always:

Don't be a jerk.


You can say the F word in a friendly context:



You can also say it in a very toxic context:




---The key difference? Don't be a jerk


Sometimes it makes sense for last pick to be something besides support:


Sometimes the situation can be very toxic:



---The key difference? Don't be a jerk


Sometimes it makes sense to go with a real unusual support pick:



Sometimes an unusual pick can be really toxic:



---The key difference? Don't be a jerk


I've seen this case emote spamming case before. And he fails the test. He was being a jerk.

You can see in his matches that other players ask him to stop. They even do so nicely at some points. But this player doesn't care. He doesn't care because he's being a jerk.

Is he using a feature of our game which has many legitimate purposes? Of course!

But is he abusing this legitimate feature to be a jerk? Yes. He is literally spamming the same phrase throughout the entire duration of the game.

Could other players fiddle with their sound settings to disable this? Sure.

Should we expect other players to adjust their player experience because a jerk is harassing them?

No. Never.

I even spent some extra time looking up this player's past harassment history. This is not an isolated 5 games this player has done this. He has repeatedly found ways to annoy and harass other players. That's the main reason he has a tribunal case in the first place.

Lyte has mentioned this in the past, but the Tribunal is really great at finding jerks in our game. But it's not always great at providing the full context of just how much of a jerk they are. But always keep in mind it takes many reports, in many games, by many people to even be considered for the Tribunal. The system may only pull 1 to 5 chat logs for a case, but make no doubt about it, the accused has been reported in many many more games than that.

The process is always being iterated on and improved though. And if the PB&J Team sees a need for the additional context to be shown, I'm confident in their abilities to make that happen.

This has got to be one of the most ignorant things I have read in weeks.


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Kraion

Senior Member

11-26-2012

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Since when annoying your opponents is wrong? It's called mind games. Why wouldn't I do something that can possibly lead my opponent to make a bad decision?
Since Riot invented the "spamming" option in the report feature.


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GyjYa

Senior Member

11-26-2012

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Originally Posted by Coolcoollo View Post
Taunting a player in any way shape or form is being a jerk..
They weren't banned for "taunting a player in any way shape or form". They were banned for being an ass.

Learn the difference.


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I Like Tanks

Senior Member

11-26-2012

Who wants to hear a joke?

Riot's banning system.


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NecroticBinder

Senior Member

11-26-2012

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Originally Posted by Neonshaman View Post
This has got to be one of the most ignorant things I have read in weeks.
Then you didn't read your own post.


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Jassu

Senior Member

11-26-2012

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Originally Posted by Neonshaman View Post
This has got to be one of the most ignorant things I have read in weeks.
You must not have read much, if any, of the post, or are ignorant yourself to come to such a conclusion.