Blackfire Broken

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Carolina Blues

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11-15-2012

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Originally Posted by MMKH View Post
BFT works on physical spells too apparently, like Corki's Gatling Gun and Ashe's Volley. It's too strong and needs the AOE and DoTs nerfed. Probably could use an AP ratio like DFG that makes buying actual AP mandatory for it to do good damage.
That's the man officers, the man who violated me with AP Corki.


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Korkee

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11-18-2012

OMG it does 1/2 the damage of a Khazix Q NERF IT!


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KalameesJr

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11-18-2012

Dominion is near unplayable as it is right now thanks to blackfire torch.


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11-18-2012

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Originally Posted by Wawix View Post
And what surprises me the most is that people consider the BFT a problem, instead of the wooglets.
For one thing it is much too cheap for what it does.


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Cauldrath

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11-18-2012

On Casseopeia, who gets more damage per AP per second than any champ I can think of off the top of my head, 125 AP from Wooglet's gives her 121 damage per second. BFT, only considering the passive and AP, gives her that much dps on a target with at least ((125*0.97)-(70*0.97))/(0.05/3)=3186 health.

Simplifying down, (ignoring stacks, keeping the DoT ticking, and additional sources of AP going with the 25% bonus, because otherwise math becomes literally impossible) the amount of health a target needs to make BFT better than Wooglet's is 3300*(Damage per AP per second)

Annie, for instance, assuming she procs Molten Shield on average once per second (which is pretty generous), has a 0.55 ratio, making the target's health needed 1815. Ignoring Molten Shield, it's 1155.

And, obviously, BFT is much better than Wooglet's on non-mages. BFT is better on Ashe for targets with 41.25 health.


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Tempestphile

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11-18-2012

This item needs to be hotfixed / disabled like now

160ish MR Sejuani with 3800 hp (revive buffed), bumps into a glass cannon teemo with BFT

I perma slowed him, so i was attacking and my W was fighting him, i wasn't even getting kited

Guess who win...


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Cauldrath

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11-18-2012

Why wouldn't you build BFT on Sejuani? She has really strong synergy with it.


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NavyGothic

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11-18-2012

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Originally Posted by Cauldrath View Post
Why wouldn't you build BFT on Sejuani? She has really strong synergy with it.
Fight fire with fire!

... on an ice champ.

That phrase doesn't really work.