Sauron's Super-Duper Mega Intergalactic Dominion Guide Version 2.0!

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HaIfhearted

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11-01-2012

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Can someone answer these questions ? I made a level 5 NA account just to post here =)

Sauron suggests for most champions ArP and MP quints, I always thought MS quints were considered the best? I don't even think any one uses ArP and MP in SR.

Also, I'd say 90% of the champions are using the 21-9 rather than 9-21, is the Offensive tree that much better ? Because most champions are built tanky any way, wouldn't make more sense to go Defensive mastery unless it's an Assassin of course.

Isn't FLAT CDR and Health/lvl seals better than armor and MR seals which are situational? For example if you're bot fighting vs an AP champ those armor seals are going to be useless.


Thanks for answering!

Edit: Oh and is Abyssal Scepter still worth buying now that the range has been nerfed so much ? I notice you have it on pretty much every AP champion...
The choice between Armor/Magic Pen and Movespeed is really a personal preference thing.
Some champs like Katerina do benefit more from the extra power, but if you wanna go movespeed on everything, that works just fine too.

The choice between 21/9 and 9/21 really depends on how tanky you plan to be and your ability to position properly.
On something like Brand, if you can position correctly in fights to where you aren't too worried about being caught, I would say go 21/9, but if you tend to get caught out of position I would recommend 9/21 just so you live a bit longer.

I don't personally know of anyone who uses CDR seals. I always run either health/level or some form of armor seal depending on what I anticipate my first few items to be.
As for bot lane, I dunno. You would need to ask someone who specializes in that.

Abyssal Scepter is still a decent AP/MR item. However, long ranged AP casters like Cass or Brand usually shouldn't be in range to make use of the penetration aura, so don't plan on trying a 60 M.pen build with those sort of champions.


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Tortferngatr

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11-12-2012

How on earth did this fall back to page 4?

Also, I suspect we'll be needing a few updates--Riot's finally beginning to make needed changes to Dominion, and we're also finally getting our long-awaited Haunting Guise upgrade, AP movespeed itemization, "deathbeanie" (granted it's more like Zhonya's Ring 2.0 but who cares it's actually good AP), aura updates, and the Windmill's gears no longer clipping into each other.

I, for one, welcome our new Blackfire Torch overlords. Do you, Sauron?


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Sauron

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11-12-2012

Pretty sure Teemo will be Cheesecake Tier with the inclusion of that item. The Sweeper and Zhonya's changes are interesting but don't really address the issues.

Nerfing mana regen can only have a negative impact on the performance of underpowered-to-balanced champions. The top champions are up there because they don't need to itemize sustain/offense/defense to get free sustain/defense/offense.


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Veni13

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11-12-2012

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How on middle-earth did this fall back to page 4?
Fixed.


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konfetarius

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11-12-2012

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Pretty sure Teemo will be Cheesecake Tier with the inclusion of that item. The Sweeper and Zhonya's changes are interesting but don't really address the issues.
"Will?"

I am puzzled that Teemo still isn't there god knows how many days after the on-hit buffs.


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Enstraynomic

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11-12-2012

Sauron, you forgot to revise the part in the guide about how Jarvan's E works, as it has been patched a while ago to cast at max range instead of moving to the point in V1.0.0.146:

Demacian Standard:
When targeting a location outside of Demacian Standard’s range, Demacian Standard will now be cast at its maximum range in the direction of the targeted location.


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Orphane

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11-15-2012

Bump for front-page.


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Das Strychnine

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11-16-2012

Hello,

This guide is pretty amazing, specially the Dominion parts, I believe any one who plays Dominion should definitely read this guide. I am not too impressed with the item builds but I guess for a quick check they are okay and you can't expect someone to be amazing with 100 champions.

Great guide any way.


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Quarlow

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11-16-2012

You know, I'm not gonna be envying Sauron in a few weeks. Or whenever it is the pre-S3 item overhaul patch is released.

also, bump.


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Cless

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11-20-2012

Well, the S3 items will give Sauron something to do while he is in queue for 2 hours. AKA bump to the front page.