Creative Design AMA - Zed, the Master of Shadows

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DearAkali

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11-06-2012

Elaborating more on the Kinkou, what specifically are they? We know that the Kinkou triumvirate consists of Akali, Kennen, and Shen, but what about the people who picked them to be part of the trio? Are they part of the Kinkou? Does Shen pick what targets Akali kills, and what exactly does Kennen do?


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Jotace

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11-06-2012

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Food for thought: Akali's passive is "twin disciplines," her title "the Fist of Shadow"
the FIst of Light inc.


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Phrosn

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11-06-2012

Zed has declared war against ninja ideologies different than his own. Is there any chance that other ninja orders may join the league, so that a ninja war does not explode across Ionia?

Does Zed care about Ionia?

Are dissenters a lore path that Riot is exploring more? We have Riven,Rumble, Syndra, Diana, somewhat Vikor and now Zed. Will there ever be a Demacian champion who becomes disenchanted with his/her home due to injustices. Seeing the the darker side of Demacian ideology would be great since it's a lot more subtle than say Noxus or Zaun.


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RiotRunaan

Associate Creative Designer

11-06-2012
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Originally Posted by waterbird1 View Post
is there any (hidden) relation/passive with vayne and zed, because vayne says something like: only shadows are to be feared?
Do his shadows have shadows?
Is there a interaction with Leona?
Nothing with Vayne or Leona, no, sorry! : (

Good question--I'll have to look at him in-game!

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I'd like to know this too. That and the recent champs after Zyra don't have an explanation as to why this champion or that champion joined the League. Are you guys going to change all of the Lores so that they don't say why they joined or will you guys later explain the reasons to the recent champions?
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The story is great; I love the character. But, why did he join the league? Doesn't seem to make sense.
Kitae has spoken about this in the past, but essentially, explaining why a champion joined the League in previous bios usually felt like a one-liner without much depth and drew focus away from the character's story. Read Kitae's explanation here!

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What does Zed think of the Void, and what would he think of someone who innately opposes his being - Lux?
Zed doesn't consider the Void a threat. He probably finds Lux childish and naive... and he's not really fond of light being thrown around while he's trying to do his shadowy moves, after all. : )

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So there's obviously a big question in Zed's bio - what happened in the temple? Do you have/can you tell us about any plans to reveal this to summoners? What about other 'hanging questions' in the league, such as Varus' transformation, Nautilus' background, Diana/Leona's lesbian romance? (utterly serious about that last one.)

Why did you choose 'shadows' to be a counterpart to the Ionian Ninja idea of balance? (relatedly, will Zed have the "Ninjas work better alone" hidden passive?)

Similarly, you seem to have gone with a fair number of relation/rivalry lores recently - Kha'Zix/Rengar, Draven/Daruis, Jayce/Viktor, Diana/Leona - What's your thinking behind this decision?

When are we going to learn more about the nifty new Lore things you folks are cooking up?
We're deliberately saving the question of what happened in the temple for a different story. As for the others you've mentioned--well, we'll have to wait and see how/if those develop... : P

It's fairly simple, on a spectrum of light and darkness, where balance is the middle ground, shadows seemed an understandable representation of the far end of that scale.

We feel that connections between champions, be they friendship or rivalry or somewhere in between, add to the depth and "big picture" of the League of Legends universe. We develop them where we can--they're fun for players (especially in game--who doesn't like killing their champion's lore rival?), and we get a lot of mileage out of them. Plus, they leave open the potential for so many future stories!

And for the last question... as soon as we're able to talk about them. These things take a lot of time!

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How does Zed stack in terms of physical strength / mental strength when compared to other champions?
Does he seek to fight the triumvirate or assassinate them or prove that his way is the best?
I'm not really sure I understand the first question--he stacks up pretty well, I'd say, as champions are typically of comparable power levels.

For the second question, Zed will prove his superiority in any way he can.

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Has anyone embraced the knowledge of the shadows from Zed? Has he taken on a favorite student(apprentice, successor)?
He may have had a "favorite student" at one point... but this particular student is no longer a part of his Order. :O


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CaptainButtercup

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11-06-2012

Big question about Zed and Shen's lore:

What is the time line on Shen's lore with Zed's lore. In Shen's lore it mentions that in order for him to become the Eye of Twilight he had to watch his father be tortured. Is Shen's father being tortured in Shen's Lore the same instance of Shen's father being murdered in Zed's Lore?


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Malakta

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11-06-2012

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Originally Posted by RiotRunaan View Post
He may have had a "favorite student" at one point... but this particular student is no longer a part of his Order. :O
So...Akali, maybe?


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Castellan Zargo

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11-06-2012

At surface value Shen and Zeds interaction bears a striking resemblance to the G.I Joe movie where the two ninjas, Snake Eyes and Storm Shadow both have the same master and the "evil" one ends up killing their master. They then become mortal enemies and fight to death later on. Coincidence?
P.S. As it turns out Zed's skin makes him look vary similar to Storm Shadow.


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Para

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11-06-2012

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So...Akali, maybe?
I called love triangle earlier.


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Comedian

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11-06-2012

Besides the ninjas does he know any of the other champions in the league? Is he a fan of nocturne?


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Enoby Darkness

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11-06-2012

Do the higher ups in Noxus, such as Swain, Leblanc, and Darius, consider Zed much of a threat to their goals of Ionian conquest?