Season End FAQ

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Luckmaker

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10-30-2012

Will the "normal elo" of unraked games be reset as well?


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Piatchi

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10-30-2012

They've already said that they dont want to fraction the playerbase.

If we had 20 different maps (to be extreme) with each normal and ranked, queue times would last forever and the game would fizzle.


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Yegg

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10-30-2012
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Originally Posted by AmazingDmgOutput View Post
Why is this not on EU forums?
We're going to translate it and post it as a news post in other regions, including EU. This step was just to look for other questions to include in the FAQ before we go through with localizing the text.


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Numot

Senior Member

10-30-2012

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We talk about this a lot internally, but it's not a simple problem. Say we removed or mitigated the Elo loss for losing a 4v5 match. As soon as players feel the game slipping out of their grasp, they would start bullying the perceived weakest link on the team to leave so that they could preserve their own Elo. Even if that player sticks it out and doesn't give in, it's a much more frustrating experience for everyone involved.
Would tieing this into the Tribunal be possible? It would then work like the examples below.

1. Player A leaves his ranked game, his team loses 4 vs 5. His team reports him. He is punished. When he is punished his team has their lost elo returned to them.

2. Player B is very rude and agressive towards his teamates, picking fights with them and causing them to ignorn him. As a result his team loses and reports him. When he is punished his teammates elo is returned.

3. Player C loves trolling games. He likes intentional feeding to get a rise out of teammates so he can report them. Due to this he causes many of his team to lose games. He is reported often and punished by the tribunal. His teammates have their elo returned to them.

These are the 3 most common reason for a unfair game, all 3 end with the player doing it being punished. So why not work it into the tribunal to return the victims elo?


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ocnus

Senior Member

10-30-2012

so the elo soft reset formula is linear?
http://imgur.com/gallery/7yVYv/new


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I Am Tolan

Senior Member

10-30-2012

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O.o
do you know what i am tlkn bout?


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WaterD103

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10-30-2012

Saying "We want to support dominion in other ways" makes no sense.
There is only ONE way to support dominion, and that is to add ranked, anything else without that, is just 100% worthless and a waste of time.

So you support it (add ranked) or you do not (not add ranked). You clearly choosed to not support dominion.

It's ok if you do not plan to support dominion for whatever reason, but stop lying, out time as a player is valuable too, and building expectations, false expectations, is just a disrespect to our time.

What worries me most is not that Riot decide to have a terrible attitude, but that population, defend this attitude with biased fanatism.

I just wish that at least, riot decided to not insult us with false speeches.

Plz, when you decide to support dominion, tell us, before that, plz, just shut up.


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Kwynt

Member

10-30-2012

Yegg, Twisted Treeline was changed and it still gets to keep it's ranked mode? Riot is suggesting to let the Dominion community grow, but won't do the same for TT? It'll be hypocritical to continue not adding ranked to Dominion while TT doesn't get the same treatment. The Dominion community already HAS a competitive scene, we just want something to actually track our progress.

What is the harm of replacing Draft Mode with Ranked Mode anyway? It's a win-win situation, nobody loses anything.


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Yegg

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10-30-2012
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Originally Posted by Numot View Post
Would tieing this into the Tribunal be possible? It would then work like the examples below.

1. Player A leaves his ranked game, his team loses 4 vs 5. His team reports him. He is punished. When he is punished his team has their lost elo returned to them.

2. Player B is very rude and agressive towards his teamates, picking fights with them and causing them to ignorn him. As a result his team loses and reports him. When he is punished his teammates elo is returned.

3. Player C loves trolling games. He likes intentional feeding to get a rise out of teammates so he can report them. Due to this he causes many of his team to lose games. He is reported often and punished by the tribunal. His teammates have their elo returned to them.

These are the 3 most common reason for a unfair game, all 3 end with the player doing it being punished. So why not work it into the tribunal to return the victims elo?
As soon as it became clear that this is how it works, players would just report their teammates after every lost game in the hopes that they might get lucky and get their Elo back. This would greatly increase the noise in the reporting system, would increase negative chat as people threaten each other with reports, and would lead to far more Tribunal cases, many of which would involve falsely accused players.


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Blaster

Senior Member

10-30-2012

Yegg, Riot shouldn't have added this "top rating" bs. The way it was done last season was perfect. Gold + get forum badges, and you have to be Maintaining the elo to deserve it. Its really bull **** to see that people who get to 1700+ don't get a forum badge even though they are well over top 1% of the community. And then to add injury to insult you let any nub with some friends get plat badges, by making it top elo and having ranked teams in there current incarnation. Many more than would ever deserve it are going to get plat badges, while people who achieve 1600+ conistently in solo que are kicked by the wayside for simply not having a friend with a plat team in 3s that they can play, and eventually win 5 times.

Don't mean for this to be a hostile post, its just disapoiting the way "ranked" rewards this season is a complete and utter joke. They are literally meaningless this year, due to ranked teams+ this top elo garbage.

Sorry if i offended anyone.